Author Topic: A Jacksonville-to-Tampa Expressway On Its Way?  (Read 26331 times)

thelakelander

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Re: A Jacksonville-to-Tampa Expressway On Its Way?
« Reply #60 on: March 25, 2019, 04:44:12 PM »
It makes sense if you have land penetrated by this highway....so you can make money from it being developed!
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Re: A Jacksonville-to-Tampa Expressway On Its Way?
« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2019, 05:37:02 PM »
Wait, so Republicans want to spend taxpayer dollars on expanded roads and expressways that would benefit their buddies that bought land cheap in those areas in advance? Are these by any chance friends of Lenny?  ::)

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Re: A Jacksonville-to-Tampa Expressway On Its Way?
« Reply #62 on: March 27, 2019, 08:44:18 AM »
If a road is going to be built between Jax to Tampa, the easiest way is just to go down the US 301 then cross over to I-75 north of Ocala near CR 326.

301 has 200' of R/W, a Limited Access road could be built within the existing R/W with frontage roads on each side for local traffic.  It would require a few more by-passes, like the one being completed around Starke.  It would also need bridges at each major and some minor crossings.  Bridges would also need to be added for wildlife crossings as well.  This is really the only way to add a major new roadway with minimal impacts on the existing environment.  Any new alignment will not be built without approval first of all of the environmental groups.

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Re: A Jacksonville-to-Tampa Expressway On Its Way?
« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2019, 09:19:02 AM »
But we already have 301 and it does its job well.  I worked in St Pete for 2 years and commuted from Jax every other week, usually jumped on 301 near Keystone Heights, south of Waldo.  But there was no good way to get from Jax to 301 without going way out of the way.  What would be more useful would be to extend 9b straight SE down to Hawthorne, then improve 301 from there south to Ocala as mentioned.  This would also give a good route from Jax to Gainesville and would be a great way for travelers passing through to skip the Orlando mess.

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Re: A Jacksonville-to-Tampa Expressway On Its Way?
« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2019, 04:22:58 PM »
SR 23, the outer beltway, FCX, First Coast Express, is better to 301.  The problem is that it is a new alignment and would take at least a decade to get approved if you could even get it improved. EIS required, R/W to buy, etc.  You might have to buy some R/W on the US 301 corridor, but mostly just small pieces and maybe a few town by-passes, like is being completed in Starke.  Much easier to get approved and permitted, less public resistance.

New alignments are hard and take lots of time.  I know they are talking about in Tallahassee now, but that is politicians, not the folks who do this every day.  FCX really got started around 2005 or so and it still has a long way to go before anyone can drive on it, expect the section from I-10 to Blanding.

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Re: A Jacksonville-to-Tampa Expressway On Its Way?
« Reply #65 on: April 02, 2019, 07:56:55 PM »
FCX really got started around 2005 or so and it still has a long way to go before anyone can drive on it, [except] the section from I-10 to Blanding.

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Re: A Jacksonville-to-Tampa Expressway On Its Way?
« Reply #66 on: April 02, 2019, 08:21:55 PM »
Talk about FCX dates back at least 30 years. But everyone is correct that it takes a lot of time to get massive infrastructure projects like this off the ground, funded and constructed.
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