Author Topic: Shad Khan, Jaguars owner, ends association with One Spark, calls financial ties  (Read 80681 times)

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Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan and his financial firm Stache Investments is ending the association with the One Spark crowdfunding festival.

After pledging to provide funding for top “creators” who participated in One Spark in April, Khan, through his spokesman Jim Woodcock, announced Tuesday that there would be no more support of any of those One Spark participants.

“Mr. Khan’s Stache Investments specifically targeted support for Jacksonville entrepreneurs. Stache fulfilled its commitment to One Spark by investing more than $1 million in One Spark’s related organization, KYN,” Woodcock said in an email. “ Stache’s cash investments in KYN ultimately provided a disappointing level of financial support to the intended startups.”

Full article: http://members.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2014-10-07/story/shad-khan-jaguars-owner-ends-association-one-spark-calls-financial-ties
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So . . . somebody pissed Shad Khan off, is that the bottom line here?

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Come on, Stephen. That seems more than a bit over-the-top cynical, isn't it?

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“ Stache’s cash investments in KYN ultimately provided a disappointing level of financial support to the intended startups.”

Anyone can read in this. It says that of the cash he provided, too small a percentage went to the actual startups.

Not an unusual issue when looking for a big donor and then find out that only 25 cents of each dollar given actually went to the startups themselves. The rest went to "administrative overhead".

I would be upset to.

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“ Stache’s cash investments in KYN ultimately provided a disappointing level of financial support to the intended startups.”

Anyone can read in this. It says that of the cash he provided, too small a percentage went to the actual startups.

Not an unusual issue when looking for a big donor and then find out that only 25 cents of each dollar given actually went to the startups themselves. The rest went to "administrative overhead".

I would be upset to.

This has been a big concern of mine with One Spark all along. When I requested their 501c3 financials last year they said they weren't prepared to release them yet. Perhaps its time to ask again.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2014, 09:07:47 PM by CityLife »

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It's the apparent Rummell vs Khan angle that intrigues me. I would have thought the folks behind OneSpark would have absolutely ensured they were attentive to Shad's expectations, etc.

And the Berlin adventure? Hmmmmm ???

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so the team is moving.

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so the team is moving.

If I got taken by a team of hipsters that easily I would leave :)

the hipsters simply took advantage of the guy who owns two really shitty football teams.

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4 companies sounds like a really small batch, though.  And $1M going to all 4 sounds teeny tiny.  Maybe I'm just used to seeing different VC portfolio scopes or reading about different Series A type numbers.

Still, we're talking about pre-pre-pre startup environment here.  As the articles allude to, there isn't a culture or an infrastructure base even really setup to breed startups, and that's moreso what KYN seemed to be about than actually funding startups.  Super pioneering stuff.

One thing that is notable lacking is "competition".  Competition brings results.  A place like SF is highly competitive.  One really really has to prove out their thesis and pitch quite well (though even Andreesen has had a lot to say about that recently).  Lots of $$$$, but even more ideas and the best and brightest flocking to the area for their chance.  In Jax, it almost seems like self-motivation to do a little work here and there on some idea.  The cost of living allows so many to just float around, and there's never any competition/carrot, or on the flip side, no promise of backing either.

I read a documentary on the creation of "Silicon Valley" recently.  There are definitely different puzzle pieces that led to the Bay Area, Austin, Boston, Seattle, Denver, and a few others to be really start-up focused.  VC was basically invented in the 50s/60s by Arthur Rock (who's still alive and friends with my roommate's family I should add) as a way to scoop 8 guys out of a fledgling company into their own "startup" (which became Fairchild Semiconductor, bank-rolled by the CEO of Fairchild Camera who was the initial investor called by Rock - Fairchild's dad had founded IBM).

Anyway, I digress.

I'm moreso on Rummell's side, just emotionally, than Khan's.  Rummell is a local.  Khan is not.  Rummell has not taken handouts, per se, to the extent that Khan has.  Rummell puts his money where his mouth is, time and time again.  Khan hasn't truly proven that to us yet, nor has he fully proven how vested he is in the region (the Jags is a business purchase and can ultimately be moved if need be...the NFL has already whittled 3 teams down, of which 1-2 will go to LA, and San Antonio and a few other markets are being bounced as possible expansions or relocations).  So I don't view the Jags as a full on bet on Jacksonville.  The local minority owners were bought out, as well, and so it's truly a new non-local who owns the team, not a handful of locals.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2014, 11:07:27 PM by simms3 »
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Yup, because ownership of the Jags and One Spark totally goes hand and hand!! One cannot do without another!!!! Jesus... ::)

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The Rummell vs Khan fight will go all the way through the mayoral election! Curry vs Brown! Give me some popcorn!

I'm a little shocked and saddened by the end to kyn. I guess I haven't had my ears as close to the ground as I used to.

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Yup, because ownership of the Jags and One Spark totally goes hand and hand!! One cannot do without another!!!! Jesus... ::)
It's sometimes hard to figure out if the logic tossed out here is seriously offered or simply jaw-dropping crazy. Has Shad Khan raped this city and I somehow missed it? X, Y or Z interests angle for incentives in Duval County all the time because of the benefits they believe they will bring with a little bit of help but Shad should be dense and not do the same ???

It just appears someone wasn't properly attentive to Shad's opinion. So he's going to move on and work with people who *are* properly attentive. Earth-shaking news, I know. From my brief time on this website, simms3 doesn't view *anything* as a full on bet on Jacksonville. And it's certainly curious to me that simms3 highlights the fact that competition brings results but doesn't champion this embryonic development of competition in Jacksonville, instead informing us on a personal preference for Rummell.

I'm for both of 'em. Shake the trees, gentlemen, make some shiznit happen.

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Cool, Stephen. I'd simply add that Khan does have quite a bit holding him here. Exclusive membership in a very valuable club and a stadium deal that likely locks him in beyond the period in which a team or teams will be placed in Los Angeles *and* opposition from the Cowboys and Texans to a team in San Antonio.

It is lazily tossed around that he has no investment here. He has more of an investment here than most anyone else in the entire City, and that can't be denied. What he has in abundance, because of his wealth, is the appearance of options. When it comes to moving the Jacksonville Jaguars, appearances lie. Especially if their creative efforts to make the franchise more profitable pan out. That's why the critique of the scoreboards (IMHO) has been so brain-dead.

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I think that the original comment was a joke (which tendentiously, I-10 simply responded to as though there had been an emergency evacuation call).  Simms was just making the case that the Khan doesn't have much holding him here.  After all, he can park the boat in lots of places.

Everytime someone says something stupid, that's equals a 'joke' okay...That excuse is so redundant, the premise of 'jokes' should be funny... I hope that you most sports team owners aren't born from the city were the team is located. The whole 'no connection' crap is so overrated (BTW Shad has connections here...). The St Louis Rams owner is from Missouri, and he basically has one foot in LA already. The Jags aren't going anywhere. 

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^^^Dull and boring, come up with something new....