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Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« on: July 04, 2014, 03:00:01 AM »
Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville



A brief video presentation from PRC Digital Media on the effort to bring the USS Adams to the Jacksonville Shipyards.

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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2014, 06:02:03 AM »
Always wondering why the south bank was in the running early, I am pleased that the proposed location for the Adams will be on the north bank. 

Let’s hope that nobody goes Disneyesk and paints this ship teal.  What do the Jaguars have to do with this navy ship?

The focus should be on the technology of a ship, the way it is built, the method through which each of the many systems achieve the capability to maneuver and destroy -- and not on military heritage as if war is good or even necessary in most cases.  If there is focus on war, let it be on the horrendous reality of the errors of war, as allowed, encouraged, and perpetuated by the fools in congress, the executive, and the controlling corporate manufacturers of flesh ripping projectiles, missiles, bombs, aircraft, ships, submarines, and tanks,

The more that victory in war is celebrated, a subtle credence and approval for it is perpetuated.  The men and women who bravely sacrificed their lives and limbs, were part of the machine of war often started by fools, which, once started ... continues until the obvious idiocy of it overcomes the will of the fools to continue it. 

I suspect that "if" the members of congress and the executive, and supporting fools and lackeys, were forced to lead the war in person, in the ground action, exposing themselves to the flesh ripping projectiles and bombs, they would consider with more caution and restraint whether to “go to war”.  The loss in combat of some of these governmental fools instead of the brave and giving military soldiers, sailors, and airmen, would set a better quality to our population  ... raising its average of integrity and common sense.

I’ve always wanted to engage a fantasy.  Once some of the bought fools in our government had encouraged military intervention without any real necessity of it ... I would wish to visit the great and hallowed chambers of our government .. and point to each individual who aggressively supports military action, and say “YOU .. you stupid sonavabitch .... YOU ... get YOUR fucking ass on the front line .... YOU sacrifice YOUR life for this futile and unnecessary military adventure ,,, YOU take the projectile in the center of YOUR fucking head, or suffer as the shrapnel takes off YOUR leg or YOUR fat ass.   

Post Rant:  The Adams can be an excellent forum for teaching technology ... to show the young that for every objective, there is a method of achieving it, and that for every problem, there is a cause ... and for every cause, there is a fix.

It would be great if there could be some “cutaways” on the actual mechanisms of propulsion and guidance.  This could be expensive however. At least, they could show diagrams of the internals of the machinery.  The objective would be to begin the “show” with an explanation of the desired output of any system, and then to explain and show “how” the output is achieved. 

In other words, the ship must be propelled and steered.  It must know where it is on the earth, and in relation to other ships.  Each engine must be monitored, controlled ...  fueled, cooled, and lubricated.  To teach kids that a ship consists of many systems, each having a purpose or output, and that there is an exact method, including inputs, to achieve or realize the purpose, gives the kid a sense of confidence; that is, just knowing that there is order in the universe, and that they can, by knowing the mechanisms conveying that order; control, change, or fix things.

 
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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 07:11:16 AM »
I'm not going to lie but that seems like a waste of space. That is a perfect spot for retail. I think retail would bring people to dtjax not a ship museum.
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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2014, 07:59:39 AM »
The USS Alabama, saved from the scrap yard by the efforts of the citizens of Alabama, has been docked off the coast of Mobile since the Sixties and is nowadays a full museum and park, accompanied in peaceful retirement by several other water and air craft. It is quite a success and still gets good reviews to this day.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the USS Adams will follow a similar tradition and be a big hit and huge draw in this Navy town for many years to come. It will not interfere with other mixed development that organically occurs nearby. It will no doubt be educational, and a popular stopping point for locals and tourists.

Welcome, USS Adams.
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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2014, 09:04:22 AM »
A well done video.  What is the status of the project?

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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2014, 09:34:07 AM »
The legislation is 2014-426 and there is a Public hearing 7/22/14 in front of the Jacksonville city council.

Very positive project.

I support the USS Charles F. Adams in our new highly restricted 4.8mile Waterfront CRA/DIA zone that has to still be approved by the Jacksonville city council. 2014-305 is also active legislation. New docking Rules and Penalties.


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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2014, 10:05:09 AM »
lol Ron. I am pretty sure it won't be painted teal.

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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2014, 07:15:06 PM »
I'm fairly certain that Jacksonville may be the only Navy town without a floating museum, even Cleveland has a couple and they are just on Lake Erie. I truly applaud the Jaguars wanting to take part in bringing the USS Adams here, because once it arrives, it can lead to other floating museums too. However, it should not be at the sake of disrespecting every single Veteran (and throughout the country) in our city by painting it teal.

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2014, 08:45:17 PM »
Who said it would be painted teal?

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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2014, 09:10:04 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/DBNYwxDZ_pA?hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/DBNYwxDZ_pA?hl=en_US</a>

Ron, did you know that a JAGUAR is one of the only cats that will actively hunt in the water? Now if we could just find a teal colored one we'd be in business. Actually as a one-time and slightly crumpled swab myself, you'd be amazed at the amount of connection between the local bases and their respective sports teams. Heroes in combat treat heroes in teal to things like a happy vomit trip in a 'Blue Angel' in turn the bases hand out tickets like crazy to school graduating classes (Navy speciality schools such as radar, nuke, etc) and don't be surprised if Jaxson Deville doesn't arrive on the 50 in a Navy MH-53E Sea Dragon! For those that don't know, the military and professional leagues are both 'team sports,' and in MANY ways consider each other brethren.

GO NAVY!
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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2014, 09:16:20 PM »
Who said it would be painted teal?

It said it in the video and there were also some artist renderings of how the shipyard would look that were posted on the Adams Facebook page sometime around November or December of last year. In those renderings, the ship's hull, from bow to stern, was shown as being painted Jaguar teal.

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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2014, 09:33:28 PM »
One great aspect about this display is that the ship is genuine, and speaks the truth of fundamental purpose and technology, much as an old architecturally interesting building ... each built in another time and for a specific purpose other than a shallow facade for tourists.  This honesty is not only refreshing, but because it lacks any intention of colorful novelty and the thin fabric of show for the shallow mood -- which usually dies out after a little time -- the ship will offer many decades of pleasure and education to the curious. 
 
And I agree with others when they say that the Adams will definitely be a reason for people to visit downtown.  Hopefully, some of these visits will encourage the occasional individual to entertain living downtown.  Every business, activity, display, or museum opened in the city core... will add its weight to the growing reasons to live downtown ... thereby increasing the  reasons to open a business downtown. 

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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2014, 09:44:18 PM »
Thanks Ock.  Love that video.

You have a point in that there is no reason to expect other than friendship and mutual support between the military and the big sports.   

Who knows ... they might just paint the Adams teal.  To do so would sorta be ..... well a ship is supposed to be grey ... and grey keeps the essence of the ship ..... shippy.   ;)

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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2014, 12:03:21 AM »
I got the impression from the renderings in the video that the Adams was bathed in teal lights. Just like the Wells Fargo building does with the corner treatments, they don't paint them teal for football season.

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Re: Bring Home The USS Adams To Downtown Jacksonville
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2014, 01:08:10 AM »
Same impression I got Charles.. You could do a LOT with lighting, you could have that ship with a purple neon light on typical nights, light it in red, white and blue, on Memorial, Veterans and 4Th of July holidays. Teal on Game weekends. Pink for a cancer drive... And OH YES, there REALLY was once a pink navy vessel, much to the chagrin of her crew.

There was a need to paint a submarine pink due to the lack of enough red or white lead undercoat paint. The heat from the burning USS Sealion, a Balao-class submarine, also scorched off the black paint of the nearby USS Seadragon and for a time this boat fought with only her red lead undercoat visible. This led Tokyo Rose to disparage American "red pirate submarines."

And for fans of the movie, 'Operation Petticoat.'
There REALLY WAS a torpedoing of a bus by a US Sub during WWII, a feat accomplished by the USS Bowfin.