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Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:40:02 PM »
Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan



The North Florida TPO will host a series of public meetings over the next two weeks to get input on transportation needs for the next 20-25 years.  Transportation projects must be included in the Long Range Transportation Plan to receive federal funding.  

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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 05:18:19 PM »
Meeting tonight at Thrasher-Horne Center in Orange Park.  The project list and maps under discussion are at:

http://pathforward2040.com/what-is-path-forward/resources/

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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 08:54:33 PM »
At least Ock's Streetcar is still in the transit plan.

First time I noticed that they want to run commuter rail all the way into Fernandina.

BRT down Beach Boulevard, I am still skeptical on that one.

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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2014, 08:18:04 AM »
^ that was in the early JTA plans....but was later cut back to Yulee for cost reasons.  The Needs Plan is kind of like a wish list and goes well beyond what could be afforded by 2040.  The cut down to affordability will happen in the summer and fall of this year.

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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2014, 08:34:18 AM »
Basically. Anyone who has an ideal should submit it to the TPO for consideration.  This is a chance to work certain projects into the region's actual transportation plans.
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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2014, 08:56:14 AM »
The transit map is not really a "Needs Plan" map since it shows mostly existing bus routes, facilities etc.  The map would be more useful if it only showed proposed needs projects.  It is also pretty much impossible to read what is going on DT on that map. 

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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2014, 09:29:56 AM »
Yeah, it is hard to read.  I've seen some earlier maps that had some pretty weird streetcar routes and that did not include all of the 2030 Mobility Plan transit, bike and ped projects.  It's hard to see if those have been added to this version.
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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2014, 11:04:12 AM »
There's an inset below the legend you can zoom in on, but yes still a bit challenging to see.  It's easier to look at the project list to see what specifically is included.  Here's a summary of the proposed projects from the list:

BRT - in addition to current four corridors that are currently in process, service from Regency to the Avenues Mall, Gateway to JIA and the Avenues to St. Johns County Government complex. 

Skyway Extensions - from the central station to the stadium, central station to Brooklyn/Forest St., Forest St. to Five Points, Kings Ave. to Atlantic Blvd. in San Marco, and FSJC station to Shands.

Streetcar - From Five Points to King St. in Riverside to FSCJ Kent Campus, and from Atlantic Blvd. in San Marco to Baptist Hospital/MOSH

Commuter Rail - From downtown transportation center individual lines each to Yulee, Baldwin, Green Cove Springs,  Callahan and St. Augustine.  Additional extensions from Green Cove to Palatka, Yulee to Fernandina Beach, and St. Augustine to Palm Coast.

Mayport Ferry - service and capital improvements

St. Johns County is also asking for local bus expansion.

Duval County Public Meeting is Thursday, 4/24, 5-7 PM at FSCJ Deerwood.  In addition to seeking comments and additions to the "Needs Plan" list, the TPO is asking people to weigh in on how investment should be allocated for the region across five categories.  Divide 100% among:

Bike/Ped
Transit
Road Capacity
Freight
Safety/Transportation systems management and operations (technology)



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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 08:32:36 PM »
A disjointed streetcar system is DOA. The system MUST be anchored downtown.

Taking BRT all the way to St. Augustine is simply, apocalyptic in view of the adjacent FEC RY and the likelihood of All Aboard Florida.

The 'S' line and the F&J below Springfield yard are ignored.

Lem Turner BRT should terminate at the Airport via the Free Trade Zone.

No BRT on the Arlington Expressway is missing our easiest chance for a median based, internationally ranked Silver Level system.

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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 09:03:01 PM »
^Make a public comment about this, since you won't be able to attend the meetings:

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Comments & Suggestions

Please share your comments and suggestions for the Path Forward 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan:

info@pathforward2040.com or post via Facebook at the bottom of the page

904.306.7500

TDD 904.306.7502

Fax 904.306.7501

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1022 Prudential Drive
Jacksonville, FL 32207

http://pathforward2040.com/get-involved/
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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2014, 09:10:58 PM »
^^At a minimum, for Duval County, the 2035 LRTP cost feasible transit projects need to be included in the 2040 needs plan.  Not really sure where the modifications to the streetcar and BRT lines came from. Nevertheless, both aren't ideal for either mode (BRT or streetcar).
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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 11:09:00 PM »
The NFTPO was involved in the electric car rally a few weeks back.

We covered the map with dots for desired charging stations. Apparently they do expect to have real funding/partnerships to actually move forward on some, but the total number of stations is laughable. 

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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2014, 09:05:39 PM »
"Thrasher" ('Horne,Pittman,King et al ) pretty much defined 'future' events seen here.Join in!

You might even glimpse a hint of The Belt Way.

Not that a Beltway,even Belt Way Transport Alternative would eventually become reality. The Process was Most about Clay development dreams,stemming back to the 60's.

The prospect of Clay countians marching in step,five days a week ( Ten total!!!!...done did that,became Avondale ASS!....) in to Duval,and.....yikes!!.....back....... might be a bit,well,antiquated.
After all, this was a conversation (long ago JTA et al) Anne Grimes and I had decades ago- the ridiculous prospect of commuters grinding up and down Blanding Blvd.Ended up basically End of Subject.
Since revised to encompass outlying county empahasis on in- county employment centers.

Somehow get Reinhold Corp to contribute to this thread or simply consider closing It.
If you can somehow get Reinhold to reveal,you might in fact become energized about future prospect beyond what I darkly profile here.
Then catch up.



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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2014, 10:02:10 PM »
^ English please

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Re: Public Meetings on 2040 Long Range Transportation Plan
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2014, 10:11:59 PM »
I really like the idea of the commuter rails going out to Yulee and areas like that. I think if that happens it is going to encourage people in cities where there is not really that much to do to venture downtown and make Jacksonville more connected as a whole. After all most major cities have that type of system in place. Definitely a step in the right direction in my eyes.
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