Author Topic: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown  (Read 31208 times)

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles' Plans for Downtown
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2014, 01:21:02 PM »
Sorry but this design is terrible.  They are basically covering over the old storefront and glass and replacing it with slate tile, including covering the doors with slate tile (why??).  This will create a deadly sidewalk presence and most likely be downright ugly. 
Furthermore, while I'm not an opponent of glass canopies per se, I think that the scale of the existing awnings are much nicer and more functional to both the facade design and for pedestrians.
The plan shows storage and other rooms directly inside the front facade.  These should be moved so that we don't end up with blank facades along Bay Street.  This is pretty common sense stuff.

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles' Plans for Downtown
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2014, 01:26:37 PM »
To correct my previous post, it's actually a fire stair and elevator hoistway pushed up against the front facade (right side of plan).  Regardless....makes no sense.

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles' Plans for Downtown
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2014, 01:42:54 PM »
Maybe there can be some LED lights wrapped around the trees, and a flashy neon sigh over the front door.

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2014, 07:00:25 PM »
I love Downtown and Bay St.

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2014, 07:17:54 PM »
Bay Street is definitely the place to open a new bar, the nightlife there is good and has been pretty strong for the past few years.  Best of luck to everyone involved, I'll definitely be checking it out.
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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles' Plans for Downtown
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2014, 08:23:14 PM »
Lake you really think the side walks are larger enough for outdoor dinning? Just asking. It doesn't seem that they are jmo. Anyway the site plan looks nice.

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2014, 09:48:03 PM »
Northstar, Underbelly, and Mark's all have outdoor seating...so yes, the sidewalk could accomodate some outdoor dining

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2014, 09:10:09 AM »
Northstar, Underbelly, and Mark's all have outdoor seating...so yes, the sidewalk could accomodate some outdoor dining

It would help if they removed the palm trees and repaved the areas where they are or replace them with shade trees.
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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles' Plans for Downtown
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2014, 02:58:12 PM »
I dig the development, but NOT the facade. I hope they aren't allowed to cover the windows. It all looks so bland and will be overlooked as it is now.

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2014, 03:49:24 PM »
It looks like covering the right side is to add stairs and an elevator. Seems to be a code thing; perhaps they can find a different place to put it.
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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2014, 06:47:29 PM »
Bay Street is definitely the place to open a new bar, the nightlife there is good and has been pretty strong for the past few years.  Best of luck to everyone involved, I'll definitely be checking it out.
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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles' Plans for Downtown
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2014, 06:57:37 PM »
I'm going to enter the NFL draft as a running back.

What? It looks pretty straightforward and I like to run...

I wish Mr Coles the world of luck, but luck doesn't manage food and labor costs any more than athletic ability does. It takes more than money to run a restaurant. Ask Duane Wade, Larry Bird, Johnny Unitas, Lawrence Taylor, Jim McMahon, Michael Jordan, Hulk Hogan (Pastamania anyone?)... You can't just throw millions at it; well, you can until your millions are gone.

I'm all for a new restaurant downtown or anywhere in the urban core. I hope(pray) he proves me wrong and hits a home run...because that might be as likely as him actually hitting a home run.

Looking forward to eating my words, at his restaurant. ;)

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2014, 07:35:58 PM »
Hopefully, he succeeds because success will only create more opportunity for additional people.  However, if it fails, it's still a net positive in that another vacant structure is renovated. This allows someone else to follow behind if the initial concept is unsuccessful. There are examples of this all over town.
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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2014, 08:08:39 PM »
I agree, Lake. I think it'll be a win either way for DT. And, like I said, I am pulling for him (as a business owner, DT advocate and FSU alum. >>------;;---->)

However, did you hear the story about the guy with no restaurant experience, other than as a guest, who decided to open a multilevel restaurant and club?

He's not opening a little cafe to learn the business. He's going big time. I hope he surrounds himself with the right people. People who protect his money like it's their own. On a Sunday night, when his manager is looking at labor vs sales and sees that his dishwasher is about to hit OT, will he send the guy home and start doing dishes? Or figure, why worry? LC is paid/doesn't know what good labor #s are/won't care/oh well slow night? If you don't know this business, your own staff will rob you blind and you won't know where all the $$ is going. You'll be pot committed with 2/7 off suit... Being a badass WR/nice guy/'celeb' won't help you there.

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Re: Levels: A Look at Laveranues Coles Plans for Downtown
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2014, 08:18:27 PM »
Well hopefully he's given former NFL and NBA players like John Offerdahl and Jamal Mashburn a call. Those guys have been pretty successful with their business investments after their playing days ended.
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