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Demosthenes

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Re: Jacksonville's Namesakes
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2013, 10:43:40 AM »
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and it is Dame Point not Dames Point.

Yeah, right, and Riverside is on the WESTSIDE, good luck getting the local news media to change both.

Is that true? I try to be a stickler for this kind of thing, and i have always heard it as Dames Point. Also, its not just he news. Google maps, which uses an API that pulls names from municiple maps, has that bridge as "Dames Point".

Also, I have always understood that "Dames Point" was the Arlington side of the river. The north side of the river is Yellow Bluff. Any concrete info on this?

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Re: Jacksonville's Namesakes
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2013, 10:45:28 AM »
Answered my own question. "Dames Point Park" is on Yellow bluff.

http://apps2.coj.net/parksinternet/parkdetails.asp?parkid=194

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Re: Jacksonville's Namesakes
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2013, 10:53:33 AM »
Like all toponyms, "Dames Point" is accurate because that's what people call it. Riverside is also on the "Westside" according to some people, but to others it's definitely not.
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2013, 05:26:17 PM »
The neighborhood under the bridge on the northside was known as Dame Point. That was long before there was a Dame Point Park. At least that is what I remember it being called. And Yellow Bluff Fort was known as just that.  I grew up on the northside and had close friends who lived there. Checking with one of them now to see what she says. Part of the area was also was known as New Berlin.

During the 20+ years it took them to decide to build the bridge, it was known as The Bridge at Dame(s) Point. Though it was the common name for the Bridge the State decided differently.
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Re: Jacksonville's Namesakes
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2013, 06:05:09 PM »
Isaiah Harts Son, Ossian B Hart, became the 10th Governor of Florida and the first governor to be born in FL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossian_B._Hart
Sometimes people get the 2 "Harts" confused and think the bridge was named after the governor and not the one in the article.

He also the namesake of Ocean Street downtown... true story.

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Re: Jacksonville's Namesakes
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 06:50:49 PM »
New Berlin supposedly settled by immigrants from Germany. Dame Point is the correct name. But use changes names over the years. Wonder if anyone remembers Cosmo?

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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2013, 08:38:42 PM »
Spoke with my friend who grew up down there , she was born in 1957. 

She said she always knew it as Dames Point. Her Grand Father (not sure how many greats that is) was Henry Von Balson, a German immigrant.
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2013, 03:48:15 AM »
New Berlin supposedly settled by immigrants from Germany. Dame Point is the correct name. But use changes names over the years. Wonder if anyone remembers Cosmo?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I have just never once seem it labelled as Dame Point. There has got to be a paper trail. The city wouldn't just rename the park because people accidentally added an S.

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Re: Jacksonville's Namesakes
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2013, 06:11:50 AM »
You never know. Ocean Street is named after Isaiah Hart's son Ossian.
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2016, 01:17:34 PM »
this popped up in my Facebook feed- pretty interesting read.