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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #180 on: February 18, 2014, 11:13:11 PM »
Great name, logo, and intro video.  I am not a soccer follower but this may change that.  I will buy logo merchandise even if I don't become one.

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #181 on: February 19, 2014, 12:00:26 AM »
As a designer and a fan of typography, it seems like "Jacksonville" and "Football Club" are squeezed into the logo. Not to mention using a weak lightweight font. Seems that every other club, other than Ft. Lauderdale, abbreviated Football Club with F.C. Just imagine if the Jaguars tried to squeeze "Jacksonville" into their shield logo. Aside from that... I like the general gist of the logo. Just my 2 cents.

The 'Football Club' thing is cool with me; In fact, I actually prefer it over the commonplace 'FC'. Out of all of the NASL teams, I like the team logos that resembles the Armada, with emphasis on the logo and the team name; The Ft Lauderdale Strikers and San Antonio Scorpions; IMO the Ottawa Fury and Virginia Cavalry have decent logos.

Some stinkers in the league too, cough, cough FC Edmonton and Tampa Bay Rowdies. I'm interested to see what our sister franchise OKC will be, and logo look like. Maybe the VA Calvary can have a rivalry with the Jax Armada (Army vs Navy). I guess that I'm one Army vet that has to root for the Navy. :) Something is telling me the Jax will get good ratings on sportslogos.net whenever they post the logo.

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #182 on: February 19, 2014, 06:18:41 AM »
CSX has the logo lit up on end of building facing the Landing. Looks pretty cool. Pic is on Armada twitter page. I have no idea how to show the pic in here. Kind of techie challenged.

It looks great


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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #183 on: February 19, 2014, 07:21:16 AM »
Very cool... I assume it is a projection?   8)
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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #184 on: February 19, 2014, 08:17:15 AM »
CSX has the logo lit up on end of building facing the Landing. Looks pretty cool. Pic is on Armada twitter page. I have no idea how to show the pic in here. Kind of techie challenged.

Years on the forum, finally learned how to post a pic. Don't think you can take it off Twitter, though.

One of the guys who works for me would gleefully wait outside in the freezing rain to watch a soccer game, he also can't be trusted with the remote at a barbecue because he'll put it on the tv. Personally I don't get it, maybe I just have a short attention span or something, but when you watch a game for 3 hours and the score is still 0 to 1 or 0 to 0, it reminds me of all foreplay and no sex. I keep kidding with him, if they'd make the goals bigger (thereby increasing the score) more Americans would like the game. Still I'm happy another option seems to be coming to town.

1, 2, 3 hours, makes no difference. I agree w/ you. Soccer is boring as hell (waiting for the onslaught here), but I'm glad it's in Jax for those that enjoy.

One way to conceptualize and enjoy soccer: No commercials. No instant replay. No interminable conferences among the referees. No coaching "challenges." No stoppage of play / Non-stop action. Over in < 2 hours.

Unless you want to be hooked, avoid watching more than a few matches...

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #185 on: February 19, 2014, 08:28:38 AM »
One of the guys who works for me would gleefully wait outside in the freezing rain to watch a soccer game, he also can't be trusted with the remote at a barbecue because he'll put it on the tv. Personally I don't get it, maybe I just have a short attention span or something, but when you watch a game for 3 hours and the score is still 0 to 1 or 0 to 0, it reminds me of all foreplay and no sex. I keep kidding with him, if they'd make the goals bigger (thereby increasing the score) more Americans would like the game. Still I'm happy another option seems to be coming to town.

That's sort of how I feel about baseball, but I still go to a couple of Suns games every year.  Same with basketball, but when the NCAA tournament comes I'll be there. 

I used to really like baseball but stopped following it.  However, my favorite games were the low-scoring National League games that would go into the 9th inning scoreless or tied at 1-1.  I had the sense that any small mistake could lose the game, and a couple of small strategic plays could win it.  Maybe that's why I like soccer. 

They could probably tinker with the rules and get more people to like it, but they would probably end up alienating many of the true fans.  Might as well stick with the rules as they are and just try to please the people that are going to stick around. 

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #186 on: February 19, 2014, 08:32:08 AM »
1, 2, 3 hours, makes no difference. I agree w/ you. Soccer is boring as hell (waiting for the onslaught here), but I'm glad it's in Jax for those that enjoy.

I really hope there won't be any onslaught.  To each his own.  I respect people who like (or don't like) certain sports.  I've tried to get into basketball but I just can't - I guess it's not my thing.  But like you said, I'm glad we have a couple of college teams and a pro (semi-pro?) team for the people who like it. 

For a long time I think I was one of the only people that I knew who liked both football and futbol.  Football fans used to be really ruthless about soccer fans!  But it seems there are more people who follow both now. 

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #187 on: February 19, 2014, 08:34:03 AM »
One way to conceptualize and enjoy soccer: No commercials. No instant replay. No interminable conferences among the referees. No coaching "challenges." No stoppage of play / Non-stop action. Over in < 2 hours.

Unless you want to be hooked, avoid watching more than a few matches...

Yes.  My wife can tolerate a soccer game but I can't get her to watch more than 10 minutes of football. 

Maybe it's because the soccer uniforms are more revealing?   :o

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #188 on: February 19, 2014, 08:36:38 AM »
I think the biggest barrier to soccer fandom is the major learning curve in understanding the competitions (e.g. the various cups, etc., some of which stretch over more than one season), the relationships between the leagues, clubs vs. national teams, etc. It is very confusing at first, but the context is necessary for understanding why a 1-1 draw can be riveting.

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #189 on: February 19, 2014, 08:39:34 AM »
Thanks edjax and pierre for the heads-up and the photo of the logo on the CSX building.  That is awesome! 

It seems that the ownership and management group (Frisch, Sala, Livingstone, et al) are making all the right moves - that's a very savvy and professional organization they're putting together. 

I'm looking forward to the celebration at the Landing tomorrow from 5 to 8 or 8:30.  They should have more scarves and other gear for supporters to pick up.  I hope they'll have that projection on the side of CSX again - I'd like to get some pictures of that myself! 

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #190 on: February 19, 2014, 08:41:41 AM »
I think the biggest barrier to soccer fandom is the major learning curve in understanding the competitions (e.g. the various cups, etc., some of which stretch over more than one season), the relationships between the leagues, clubs vs. national teams, etc. It is very confusing at first, but the context is necessary for understanding why a 1-1 draw can be riveting.

Good point - it is a lot to take in at the beginning.  I take it for granted, but you're right about that being a possible barrier.  Then you have the transfer windows, the difference between club and country...hell the offside rule is hard enough to get past! 

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« Reply #191 on: February 19, 2014, 10:19:53 AM »
^ I've tried to be open-minded and not NFL-myopic and get into soccer, but all of that has been a struggle for me.  That, and the game clock issue - it's maddening to me to see that the game doesn't end at the 90 minute mark and no one knows exactly how many minutes and seconds have been added on for play stoppages.
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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #192 on: February 19, 2014, 03:00:01 PM »
^ I've tried to be open-minded and not NFL-myopic and get into soccer, but all of that has been a struggle for me.  That, and the game clock issue - it's maddening to me to see that the game doesn't end at the 90 minute mark and no one knows exactly how many minutes and seconds have been added on for play stoppages.

IIRC, when the MLS began they used a countdown timer much like most American sports, but they soon eliminated for the traditional method.

I love soccer, but I really love almost all sports and enjoy their many nuances. World Cup soccer is easily my favorite and most-anticipated sporting event.

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Re: Jacksonville on short list for NASL franchise
« Reply #193 on: February 19, 2014, 04:59:41 PM »
I think the biggest barrier to soccer fandom is the major learning curve in understanding the competitions (e.g. the various cups, etc., some of which stretch over more than one season), the relationships between the leagues, clubs vs. national teams, etc. It is very confusing at first, but the context is necessary for understanding why a 1-1 draw can be riveting.

Yeah, I don't get any of the "how the league/s work" thing AT ALL...
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« Reply #194 on: February 19, 2014, 05:05:51 PM »
^ I've tried to be open-minded and not NFL-myopic and get into soccer, but all of that has been a struggle for me.  That, and the game clock issue - it's maddening to me to see that the game doesn't end at the 90 minute mark and no one knows exactly how many minutes and seconds have been added on for play stoppages.

Small price to pay for no (zero!) stoppages and maddening can be exciting! Anyway, the more you watch it, the more of sense you get of how much extra time will be given.

One thing I found hard to get used to, but now relish is that the ref is very much a part of the game (and occasionally the outcome). That is unacceptable in American sports, where we are obsessed with absolute "fairness" via scrutiny of milisecond frames of video (and end up getting lost in the pixels). In soccer, sh*t happens and sometimes it is very unfair. But to me, that is more like life.