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Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« on: December 28, 2012, 03:06:49 AM »
Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods



Jacksonville and Duval County's densest pockets of residential density according to the 2010 Census.  A few will surprise the average Jacksonville resident.

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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 11:28:59 AM »
Good to see Durkeeville getting some shine.
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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 07:05:24 PM »
I came across a pretty cool new website that contains a map of every person counted by the 2010 US Census. The map has 308,450,225 dots - one for each person.

link: http://bmander.com/dotmap/index.html

It's so detailed, you can see where areas of density exist all the way down to the block level.  I know this map is large, but I'm posting it anyway to show the level of detail.

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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 07:11:31 PM »
^With this in mind, it's a pretty good tool to see where areas for significant infill exist (downtown/LaVilla/Brooklyn) and areas of decent density (Durkeeville, Riverside, etc.) that should be further linked together with DT.  It's also cool comparing our dense pockets with other communities.  For example, check out Jax compared with a few other cities at the same exact scale:

Jacksonville (downtown is the donut hole)


Charlotte (recent residential infill in Uptown shows but Jax's urban neighborhoods appear to be denser)


Nashville (appears to have decent density around Vanderbilt)


San Francisco (Everyone living in Duval County packed into roughly 30 square miles.)


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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 07:23:21 PM »
This Miami map is pretty interesting.  You can see the results of infill TOD density along the Metrorail line running SW from downtown:



By the way, this map tracks where residents live only.  The big white box at the top of the image is Miami Internationa Airport.  The white hole surrounded by black dots at the bottom of the image is Dadeland Mall, which is where Metrorail terminates.


Metrorail's Dadeland South Station

Also, the largest concentration of human population in downtown Jacksonville appears to be the Duval County Jail.
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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 09:22:28 PM »
Very cool.

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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 10:35:02 PM »
Yeah, I know, I'm not a photoshop artist, but here are a couple of thoughts based on those density maps Lake.



This sheds a whole new light on the Myrtle Avenue Streetcar Route via the Jacksonville Subway.



Jacksonville Terminal with Streetcar on Bay/Water/Myrtle, Train side revision and Bus side corrected.




Myrtle Avenue streetcar showing a Dora Street segment (includes private right-of-way and bridge)

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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2012, 09:55:59 AM »
amazing find Lake. 

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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2012, 10:04:54 AM »
Yeah, I know, I'm not a photoshop artist, but here are a couple of thoughts based on those density maps Lake.


This sheds a whole new light on the Myrtle Avenue Streetcar Route via the Jacksonville Subway.

Try overlaying your desired routes on the dot map.  It is a better indicator or where people actually live then simply running a line past the side of a census tract boundary.  I believe the dot map goes all the way to census block level.

For example,  Five Points has a higher density at block level than Avondale.  However, at the census track level (the purple map), it doesn't because it's being grouped with an area of low residential density.



Also, Arlington has some great density and a decent commercial area around Regency Mall.  For you BRT advocates out there, this should be one of your first BRT corridors to implement instead of Philips Highway.
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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2012, 11:06:55 AM »
Yeah, I know, I'm not a photoshop artist, but here are a couple of thoughts based on those density maps Lake.


This sheds a whole new light on the Myrtle Avenue Streetcar Route via the Jacksonville Subway.

Try overlaying your desired routes on the dot map.  It is a better indicator or where people actually live then simply running a line past the side of a census tract boundary.  I believe the dot map goes all the way to census block level.

I didn't run it down the side of the census tract boundary, I enlarged the map and followed the 'official' streetcar map as we've laid it out. I took the liberty of extending the King Street segment to the brewery district (so Randall O'Toole can claim the building boom was caused by drunks). It's pretty amazing how well Myrtle Avenue sets up Durkeeville, a line up Myrtle to 8Th Street would nail down another area of density.

I don't believe I have the needed tools to overlay the maps. If there is a simple formula/step by step out there, I'll give it a try.

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For example,  Five Points has a higher density at block level than Avondale.  However, at the census track level (the purple map), it doesn't because it's being grouped with an area of low residential density.



Also, Arlington has some great density and a decent commercial area around Regency Mall.  For you BRT advocates out there, this should be one of your first BRT corridors to implement instead of Philips Highway.

Agreed, the Arlington Expressway/Atlantic could easily be the star BRT route in the southeast. It could also use an extra 2 lanes, perhaps a tolled BRT/express lane. Regency Square and JTA should be working together to create a strong transit connection by moving the hub next to the mall.  Such a 'transit + mall' combination should work to their mutual benefit.




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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 08:23:35 AM »
Pretty interesting.  Another measure would be where “activity” is – maybe a aerial thermal image of the city (FLIR) at different times of the day.  Population is one measure – concrete, cars, lighted billboards etc. another significant measure.  What does the census show for Disney World on a spring break Saturday?

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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 08:31:04 AM »
Agreed, the Arlington Expressway/Atlantic could easily be the star BRT route in the southeast. It could also use an extra 2 lanes, perhaps a tolled BRT/express lane. Regency Square and JTA should be working together to create a strong transit connection by moving the hub next to the mall.  Such a 'transit + mall' combination should work to their mutual benefit.

You can avoid all of this, utilizing the frontage roads by running the buses in mixed traffic.  No need to spend hundreds of millions widening the road.  If there is some extra cash lying around, spend it on a few pedestrian overpasses.
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Re: Jacksonville's Densest Neighborhoods
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 08:19:30 PM »
good info, thanks!