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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #75 on: January 01, 2010, 06:00:43 PM »
This madness could stop to some large degree if the Davis family would reconsider much of their DDI holdings in Duval and what remains to be developed in the contiguous Nocatee and offer it up for a state or federal park.  See the MJ thread, J.E. Davis National Park, at: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,6223.0.html
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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #76 on: January 01, 2010, 09:48:43 PM »
During our last real estate bubble collapse, in the early '70's, there was a huge development underway in Cape Coral.  All of the roads and canals were in for miles, but there was little or no building there for years.  Driving through Knockatree reminds me of that.

The abandoned road in the development began to be used as landing strips by light planes flying in loads of cocaine and marijuana from Jamaica, Haiti, Cuba and the Dominican Republic.

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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #77 on: January 01, 2010, 10:46:22 PM »
This madness could stop to some large degree if the Davis family would reconsider much of their DDI holdings in Duval and what remains to be developed in the contiguous Nocatee and offer it up for a state or federal park.  See the MJ thread, J.E. Davis National Park, at: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,6223.0.html

Why should a private land holder be compelled to donate his property upon your insistence??

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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #78 on: January 01, 2010, 10:52:34 PM »
So a developer buys land that is set aside for nature preserves and rapes them for profit

No the land was not set aside as preserve.It could have been,but was not.

I'm sure it could have been, but that would require money..and an owner willing to sell!

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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #79 on: January 01, 2010, 10:58:37 PM »
Why should a private land holder be compelled to donate his property upon your insistence??

Bucket, did you actually read the thread were my proposal is flushed out (see excerpted quote below)?  If you did, you would have seen I pushed for ANY option, whether by donation OR purchase .  Gate didn't donate Guana Park, the State bought it.  Whatever works, first it needs to be an agreed to and supported goal to achieve.


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Locally, I think it would be great if someone would approach the Davis family about purchasing/donating their remaining tens of thousands of acres of their Dee Dot ranch and Nocatee properties for a really special preservation of what's left of historic and natural "old" Florida.
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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #80 on: January 01, 2010, 11:00:46 PM »
Point taken. I did read that previously, but had forgotten how you presented it.

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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #81 on: January 02, 2010, 12:08:31 AM »
Well the state sure as hell isn't buying it, we're deadass broke.
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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #82 on: January 03, 2010, 08:16:52 PM »
Aside from the Feds and State, the acquisition of public lands is often "facilitated" by non-profit groups such as Nature Conservancy, Trust for Public Lands, Sierra, and Audubon.  In the end, where there is a will, there is usually a way.  Let's establish the "will" first and then focus on the "way".

P.S.  I do believe the Davis family has contributed, as I recall, to Nature Conservancy, so they should be familiar with the possibilities if approached.
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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #83 on: January 04, 2010, 05:59:48 PM »
They do the same for the St. John's River Water Management District too and have facilitated a lot of the District's acquisition of watershed lands.  The District probably has more money for this than the State does right now anyway.
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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #84 on: January 04, 2010, 07:53:35 PM »

How interesting........'nocatee town center' equals so many related yet "off post" comments.

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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #85 on: January 04, 2010, 08:08:24 PM »
They do the same for the St. John's River Water Management District too and have facilitated a lot of the District's acquisition of watershed lands.  The District probably has more money for this than the State does right now anyway.

SJRWMD aquisitions have been done on willing seller basis.Only.The process is joined at the hip with the development industry.I personally had to run interference with the Fla DOT Brannon/Chaffee (Oakleaf) permit applicaion placed before the WMD and Fed COE (erroneous at that.....was placed as "stand alone" and then got a push from Delaney....).Senate Bill 98 Wetland Mitigation for B/C had the WMD looking at "mitigation" for B/C roadway foot print........the WMD could have looked 'basin wide' as far as Nassau county however I/"we" kept the focus on Clay.......which,thanks to Gilman passing away made a parcel "connected" (we love "connected" = cheap) to Jennings State Forest availabe as "mitigation".My point was,the issue not so much the negative ("wetland") impacts of Brannon/Chaffee (as 'mitigated' by WMD) but rather the "SECONDARY" impacts.


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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #86 on: January 05, 2010, 11:47:13 AM »
Wasn't there a lawsuit won a few years back by Florida Sierra Club that required SJWMD to consider "secondary and cumulative impacts"?
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Re: Nocatee's Town Center Revealed
« Reply #87 on: February 08, 2010, 10:29:33 AM »
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50 take plunge to launch Nocatee Water Park

Posted: February 7, 2010 - 12:32am

By JIMMEL WALSH

More than 500 people bundled up in jackets Saturday morning to ward off the brisk weather watched families and friends strip down to their bathing suits and jump into the Lagoon Pool at Splash Water Park in Nocatee.

"Before you ask, it was cold," said Kevin Wilson, purchasing manager of David Weekley Homes, a home building company with a site in Nocatee.

The temperature in the pool was the same as the air temperature -- 59 degrees.

Wilson didn't play in the water as others did. He was in and out. Wilson and his co-workers joined the Nocatee Polar Plunge to promote team building and camaraderie.

After swimmers received the signal at 9 a.m. to jump in, 50 people, some dropping their towels just as they went in, were in the pool, as their friends watched and laughed.

The event was a sneak peek of the new water park, which includes the Riptide Slide, a 53-foot tower with two water slides, a pool, Splash Cove for children and the Lazy Tides River.

The park is scheduled to open officially March 27.

The new recreation facilities also will have a 5,000-square-foot fitness center, concession building, and a clubhouse that will house special events.

Vance LeClair, resident of Riverwood, one of Nocatee's communities, has driven several times passed the park in anticipation. On Saturday, he went down the water slide twice.

"I love it! It's great." LeClair said.

Joyce Seymour, 61, also a resident of Riverwood, is originally from Michigan and is used to the cold climate. She laughed and called herself "nuts" for wanting to jump into the pool.

"I'm trying to keep young," Seymour said.

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About Nocatee

Nocatee is a new town located in Ponte Vedra on the borders of St Johns and Duval Counties. The town consists of 450 families that occupy five communities: Tidewater, Willowcove, Austin Park, Riverwood and Coastal Oaks. The town is expanding with new communities, Kelly Pointe and White Hall. The community will also have a Town Center with a Publix Supermarket, which is scheduled to open Saturday. When Nocatee is completed, it will have more than 15,000 homes.

Source: http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-02-07/50-take-plunge-launch-nocatee-water-park