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sheclown

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Southern Rock
« on: October 26, 2012, 03:55:27 PM »
What is it?
What are its defining features?
When was it born?
Is it still alive?
What has it inspired?
From what did it draw its inspiration?


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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 03:57:36 PM »
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  1. Free Bird - Lynyrd Skynyrd
  2. Ramblin Man - Allman Brothers Band
  3. Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd
  4. The South's Gonna Do It Again - Charlie Daniels Band
  5. Can't You See - Marshall Tucker Band
  6. Whipping Post - Allman Brothers Band
  7. There Goes Another Love Song - Outlaws
  8. Dixie Chicken - Little Feat
  9. Flirtin' With Disaster - Molly Hatchet
10. Caught Up In You - .38 Special
11. Midnight Rider - Allman Brothers Band
12. Take The Highway - Marshall Tucker Band
13. If You Want to Get to Heaven - Ozark Mountain Daredevils
14. One Way Out - Allman Brothers Band
15. Green Grass & High Tides - The Outlaws
16. The Devil Went Down to Georgia - Charlie Daniels Band
17. Hold On Loosely - .38 Special
18. Heard it in a Love Song - Marshall Tucker Band
19. Jim Dandy - Black Oak Arkansas
20. Jessica - Allman Brothers Band
21. Train, Train - Blackfoot
22. Fire On The Mountain - Marshall Tucker Band
23. Simple Man - Lynyrd Skynyrd
24. Black Betty - Ram Jam
25. Keep On Smilin' - Wet Willie
26. I'm No Angel - Gregg Allman
27. Gimme Three Steps - Lynyrd Skynyrd
28. Fooled Around And Fell In Love - Elvin Bishop
29. Saturday Night Special - Lynyrd Skynyrd
30. Statesboro Blues - Allman Brothers Band
31. Keep Your Hands to Yourself - The Georgia Satellites
32. What's Your Name - Lynyrd Skynyrd
33. Oh Atlanta - Little Feat
34. Third Rate Romance - Amazing Rhythm Aces
35. Homesick - Atlanta Rhythm Section
36. Southbound - Allman Brothers Band
37. Highway Song - Blackfoot
38. (Ghost) Riders In The Sky - Outlaws
39. Jackie Blue - Ozark Mountain Daredevils
40. Can't Keep Running - The Greg Allman Band
41. Ain't Wastin Time No More - Allman Brothers Band
42. Georgia Rhythm - Atlanta Rhythm Section
43. Bounty Hunter - Molly Hatchet
44. Blue Sky - Allman Brothers Band
45. Miss Understanding - Grinderswitch
46. Hard To Handle - Black Crowes
47. That Smell - Lynyrd Skynyrd
48. Southern Comfort - The Jimmie Van Zant Band
49. Second Chance - .38 Special
50. Tuesday's Gone - Lynyrd Skynyrd
51. Trouble No More - Allman Brothers Band
52. Willin' - Little Feat
53. Uneasy Rider - Charlie Daniels Band
54. Duane's Tune - The Dickey Betts Band
55. I Know A Little - Lynyrd Skynyrd
56. Long Haired Country Boy - Charlie Daniels Band
57. Hot 'Lanta - Allman Brothers Band
58. Battleship Chains - Georgia Satellites
59. Rockin' Into The Night - .38 Special
60. Open Road - Grinderswitch
61. See You One More Time - Marshall Tucker Band
62. Before The Bullets Fly - The Greg Allman Band
63. Dreams I'll Never See - Molly Hatchet
64. On the Hunt - Lynyrd Skynyrd
65. Takin' Up Space - Van Zant
66. Bad Little Doggie - Gov't Mule
67. Party In The Parking Lot - The Jimmie Van Zant Band
68. Travelin' Shoes - Elvin Bishop
69. Left Turn On A Red Light - Blackfoot
70. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme - Blackfoot
71. That's Your Secret - Sea Level
72. Thorn and a Wild Rose - The Greg Allman Band
73. Fire In The Kitchen - Warren Haynes
74. Brickyard Road - Johnny Van Zant
75. Ain't Life Grand - Widespread Panic
76. Feats Don't Fail Me Now - Little Feat
77. Island - The Greg Allman Band
78. Keep Your Hands On The Wheel - Ram Jam
79. Don't Pass Me By - Georgia Satellites
80. Time To Roll - The Dickey Betts Band
81. Rattlesnake Rock 'N' Roller - Blackfoot
82. Mind Bender - Stillwater
83. Shake 'Em On Down - North Mississippi Allstars
84. Coming Home - Johnny Van Zant
85. Goddamn Lonely Love - Drive-By Truckers
86. Don't Misunderstand Me - Rossington Collins Band
87. Countryside Of Life - Wet Willie
88. Grey Ghost - Henry Paul Band
89. Goin' Down South - North Mississippi Allstars
90. Castle Rock - Barefoot Jerry
91. Gator Country - Molly Hatchet
92. Climb To Safety - Widespread Panic
93. Soulshine - Gov't Mule
94. Rock Bottom - The Dickey Betts Band
95. Hit The Nail On The Head - Amazing Rhythm Aces
96. Refried Funky Chicken - Dixie Dregs
97. Champagne Jam - Atlanta Rhythm Section
98. It Hurts To Want It So Bad - Sea Level
99. Searchin' For A Rainbow - Marshall Tucker Band
100. Come On - Southern Bitch

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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 04:08:38 PM »
As far as what 'Southern Rock' is, I think that's something that has been debated forever and won't be settled anytime soon. I think even some of its more famous proponents would argue it doesn't even really exist.

As far as the list goes, it's okay, I guess - though there are a number of songs on there that aren't really Southern Rock songs at all. I wouldn't consider the Georgia Satellites or even the Black Crowes to be Southern Rock (just personal opinion) and although the Outlaws are considered Southern Rock, I wouldn't consider "Ghost Riders in the Sky" to be a very good example of Southern Rock.

For the most part, there are two great bands - The Allman Brothers Band and Lynyrd Skynyrd (both before members started dying and the bands started sucking really bad). Most of the others are second or third rate imitators.

Well, maybe I'm being a bit harsh - bands like Little Feat and maybe the Atlanta Rhythm Section and Marshall Tucker Band probably aren't too crappy (though not really my thing). Most of those others are pretty dire, though.

And the Charlie Daniels Band are country.

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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 04:15:09 PM »
I remember being a teenager and hearing "Midnight Rider" for the first time.  Monumental moment in my life.

Number 11:  "Midnight Rider"  Allman Brothers Band

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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 04:16:45 PM »
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I feel that some people have more of a stereotypical image of it.  Of the Confederate flag waving, cowboy hat wearing, more redneck kind of bands, of having that image.  But overall, I'm proud of it, today, the term.  And I'm proud to be associated with it.  The emphasis is on good songs.  If you look at what it is to grow up in the South, the family values, the spiritual side....the Bible Belt is part of our heritage, interracial interaction, the black culture, the love of the land...all those things make it what it was and what it still is.
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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 04:22:43 PM »
Definitely still a lot of good music that has some southern rock sensibilities, but I think a lot of it is defined more as "Alt-Country" than Southern Rock. My Morning Jacket, Band of Horses, and Drive By Truckers are a few that come to mind. I like the Allman Brothers and Skynard, but I'll take MMJ all day.

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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 04:30:34 PM »
Interesting CityLife.

Is it "Alt-Country?" 

Look at that top 100 list from ...somewhere.... how many of those songs belong to Jacksonville's native sons?

Almost half?
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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 04:32:08 PM »
Well, the big ones I can think of are on the list. Aside from those, I always liked "Mountain Jam" by the Allman Brothers Band. Their version of "Statesboro Blues" is classic, too.

I never used to consider the Allmans to be Southern Rock - I thought them too good and maybe a bit too early. I always considered Southern Rock to be a caricature what the Allmans did and what Lynyrd Skynyrd popularized. Like Skynyrd got huge with their sound which was "Southern" and maybe was a more mainstream version of what bands like the Allmans were doing. And then a bunch of lesser bands started cranking out poor copies of the Skynyrd sound and POOF! "Southern Rock" was born.

It's like what happened with Nirvana. (Though, technically, "grunge" existed before Nirvana... as Southern Rock probably existed before Lynyrd Skynyrd).

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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 04:40:42 PM »
Call it.

Very first Southern Rock song.

Ever.


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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 04:42:48 PM »
Call it.

Very first Southern Rock song.

Ever.

"Maybellene" by Chuck Berry.

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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 05:21:27 PM »
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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 05:26:49 PM »
Adam,

Allman Brothers not "gritty" enough?

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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 05:32:13 PM »
Defining characteristics of Southern Rock:

*Characteristic blues-rock sound, rhythm and sensibilities
*Sound driven by electric guitars
*Strong reliance on guitar solos and jams
*Typically strong southern themes and imagery
*Detectable influence from earlier styles of music including roots rock, blues, folk, country and general Americana
*Bands are almost exclusively from the South.

When trying to define "Southern Rock" as a distinct and definable subgenre in and of itself, as opposed to just rock from the South (as so much early rock & roll was), I don't think we can go any earlier than the Allman Brothers in the late 60s without losing the definition entirely. For instance Creedence Clearwater Revival employed a lot of the elements later associated with Southern Rock before the Allmans, but they weren't from the South and aren't usually considered practitioners of the genre.

As for when it ended, it's a tricky question. The classic period of Southern Rock died out in the mid-80s, after which point new Southern Rock bands stopped emerging and the old guard stopped charting. However, not only is music from the traditional Southern Rock period still as popular as it ever was, if not more so, but many recent bands, in and out of the South, are perceptibly influenced by Southern Rock and Southern Rock bands.
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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 05:38:35 PM »
 First Southern Rock Song,
"Gimme Three Steps".... Skynryds first single (?) I mean arguably.
 In terms of popularity to support Tacachale, Skynryd sells a million albums a year. When in NYC, I knew several grunge players who loved Skynyd and never mentioned Allman Brothers.
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Re: Southern Rock
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2012, 05:48:40 PM »
Well, the big ones I can think of are on the list. Aside from those, I always liked "Mountain Jam" by the Allman Brothers Band. Their version of "Statesboro Blues" is classic, too.

I never used to consider the Allmans to be Southern Rock - I thought them too good and maybe a bit too early. I always considered Southern Rock to be a caricature what the Allmans did and what Lynyrd Skynyrd popularized. Like Skynyrd got huge with their sound which was "Southern" and maybe was a more mainstream version of what bands like the Allmans were doing. And then a bunch of lesser bands started cranking out poor copies of the Skynyrd sound and POOF! "Southern Rock" was born.

It's like what happened with Nirvana. (Though, technically, "grunge" existed before Nirvana... as Southern Rock probably existed before Lynyrd Skynyrd).

I find that argument... untenable. The term "Southern Rock" was popularized because of the Allman Brothers. And they weren't all that much earlier than some other notable Southern Rockers like Elvin Bishop and Wet Willie. However, they certainly weren't as "hard rock" as some of the later bands such as Skynyrd, and Skynyrd definitely dominated the course of the style after they became big.
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