1534 Oak Street Breaks Ground

[Shwaz]

I love the rendering of the building and the addition of Chew to the neighborhood... I'm a little confused how 11 parking spaces is going to be adequate though. I lived on the corner of Herschel & Margaret and dealt with the parking issue there first hand... adding a great restaurant like this could make things considerably worse.

[duvaldude08]

Shwaz,

Because of its location its pretty muchin walking distance. I think that was the whole purpose was to make it "walkable". That could be why there is so little parking.

[jcjohnpaint]

I love it bravo.  Yeah most of the places we go to there we park at 5 pts and walk. 

[Captain Zissou]

A large public garage at Post and Oak would be a solution I'd consider.

Until the streetcar is operational, the bus routes are a viable option, or we implement complete streets on a large scale, garages will be the band aids to alleviate our parking pains.

[thelakelander]

For the cost of a decent sized parking garage, you could probably get a mile or more of streetcar.  Thus, if funding is a concern for both, you're better off biting the bullet and going streetcar from the start.

[Shwaz]

Shwaz,

Because of its location its pretty muchin walking distance. I think that was the whole purpose was to make it "walkable". That could be why there is so little parking.

Walkable isn't a universal solution... and trust me as I lived on that block for 3 years, there's already an issue with available parking. The entire block of Herschel is congested 7 days a week.

[duvaldude08]

Shwaz,

Because of its location its pretty muchin walking distance. I think that was the whole purpose was to make it "walkable". That could be why there is so little parking.

Walkable isn't a universal solution... and trust me as I lived on that block for 3 years, there's already an issue with available parking. The entire block of Herschel is congested 7 days a week.

I can agree. Even driving through is sometimes difficult because there are so many cars parked. I didnt say it wa a universal solution, but parking will not be such as a huge issue as its being perceived. Thats all. If you really want to go somewhere, you park and walk.

[longhaul]

This is a terrific project, but to me it best serves to represent a shining by-product of a bigger issue.  For downtown and adjacent areas to thrive, it must do so on the shoulders of artists, musicians, small business, entrepreneurs, etc. 

This proven form of organic growth is widely known and discussed on MJ, but to me it always bears repeating.

Insetta is one of many beaming examples of what drives cultural and economic prosperity in urban America.  Redundancy aside, the best examples of sustainable growth areas are predominately sparked by the artisitc-minded whose knack for creativity, risk-taking, and passion yield the some of the most dynamic output of ideas, products, services, places, and people.

Five Points/Riverside has embraced and protected creativity and as such will continue to impress.  Jacksonville needs to do everything in its power to buttress the Jon Insetta's of the world.  But, there are countless more that remain unknown and unsupported.   

I think Jacksonville's leadership gets this and I'm excited to see how they further their support for the creative contingent.  There is an endless list of evidence that supports the benefits of supporting these ideals and my hope is that Jacksonville continues to expand their embrace.

I lack such creativity - but, I am a huge fan of the fruitful tilt it puts on our society and economy and am grateful to those pushing the envelope.

[Captain Zissou]

Shwaz,

Because of its location its pretty muchin walking distance. I think that was the whole purpose was to make it "walkable". That could be why there is so little parking.

Walkable isn't a universal solution... and trust me as I lived on that block for 3 years, there's already an issue with available parking. The entire block of Herschel is congested 7 days a week.

I agree with Shwaz.  Riverside is a walkable island in a suburban city.  As long as this is the case, we will have problems with parking.  That being said, Lake's solution makes a lot of sense.  We need to push the streetcar through the necessary channels soon.  The benefits will be enormous.

[Shwaz]

Shwaz,

Because of its location its pretty muchin walking distance. I think that was the whole purpose was to make it "walkable". That could be why there is so little parking.

Walkable isn't a universal solution... and trust me as I lived on that block for 3 years, there's already an issue with available parking. The entire block of Herschel is congested 7 days a week.

I can agree. Even driving through is sometimes difficult because there are so many cars parked. I didnt say it wa a universal solution, but parking will not be such as a huge issue as its being perceived. Thats all. If you really want to go somewhere, you park and walk.

To a certain extent... or you get fed up with the situation and go somewhere that's a little more parking friendly. It also makes life difficult for those that live in the immediate area. It's extremely frustrating to come home to blocked driveway or even wait 10 minutes to exit your block.

Personally I loved that apartment and would've been thrilled to have Chew right across the street... I'm just saying a solution needs to be created for the additional traffic this new venue will bring. 11 parking spaces isn't going to cut it. The street car is definitely a good start.

[Tacachale]

Walkability and the streetcar line will (hopefully) reduce parking needs for people living within walking and streetcar distance, but there are still needs for people coming from outside the neighborhood. As Shwaz says, the parking is already trouble now; it's only going to get worse as Riverside continues to grow as a commercial/entertainment destination. And we'd be years off before the streetcar would be connected enough to other neighborhoods to have much effect on extra-neighborhood commutes.

[duvaldude08]

Shwaz,

Because of its location its pretty muchin walking distance. I think that was the whole purpose was to make it "walkable". That could be why there is so little parking.

Walkable isn't a universal solution... and trust me as I lived on that block for 3 years, there's already an issue with available parking. The entire block of Herschel is congested 7 days a week.

I can agree. Even driving through is sometimes difficult because there are so many cars parked. I didnt say it wa a universal solution, but parking will not be such as a huge issue as its being perceived. Thats all. If you really want to go somewhere, you park and walk.

To a certain extent... or you get fed up with the situation and go somewhere that's a little more parking friendly. It also makes life difficult for those that live in the immediate area. It's extremely frustrating to come home to blocked driveway or even wait 10 minutes to exit your block.

Personally I loved that apartment and would've been thrilled to have Chew right across the street... I'm just saying a solution needs to be created for the additional traffic this new venue will bring. 11 parking spaces isn't going to cut it. The street car is definitely a good start.

True dat 

[hightowerlover]

is there any hope that they can keep both locations open?  or is that completely inconceivable?

[Steve]

^In speaking to Insetta in the past, I would say this is HIGHLY unlikely at best.

[Tacachale]

My understanding is that Chew has been planning to leave downtown for some time now.