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They could just hang out in Unity Plaza since its directly across the street. My guess is the park is there because the garage is the shape of a rectangle and that triangle is a left over piece of property the design team didn't know what else to do with. A quick look around downtown suggests these types of left over spaces tend to become "plazas" of some sort.
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Sports / Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Last post by MusicMan on Yesterday at 10:34:06 PM »
KenFSU   I beg to differ. Put a consistent winner on the field and we will see the stadium packed.  We have a losing tradition. NOT a winning tradition. That's why Minshew Magic took off. The fan base is so desperate for ANYTHING we immediately ate up Minshew. A couple more games like this past one and the magic will be gone.

The saddest part of the Ramsey debacle IMO is another lost first round draft choice. Ramsey wants out because we are not a winner. Plain and simple. Look at our last 8 to 10 first round draft picks. There you'll find all the answers you need to know.
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Sports / Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Last post by Ken_FSU on Yesterday at 09:50:07 PM »
I still think the fundamental problem here isn't fan support, but rather stadium size relative the market.

Every single perception issue this franchise has had over the last 25 years is the direct result of building the church for Easter Sunday (Florida/Georgia).

Huge mistake to permanently remove the tarps after one successful season when ticket supply already outweighed demand for most games.

Simple supply and demand is the reason that the tickets on the secondary market are so cheap relatively the primary market.

Had the Jags built a 56,000 seat stadium in 1993, I'm fully convinced that we'd have season ticket waiting lists, PSLs, a decade-long sellout streak, a significantly better gameday experience, and the reputation as a fanbase more in line with Green Bay than Miami.


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Brooklyn / Re: Renderings: Florida Blue’s Forest Street Parking Garage
« Last post by JaxAvondale on Yesterday at 08:34:55 PM »
My guess is that the park is for a place Blue Cross’ employees to hang out during lunch. While, the retail space is small, I could see a Nacho Taco type place working in that space.
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News / Re: Change in JEA board
« Last post by Non-RedNeck Westsider on Yesterday at 07:21:34 PM »
This may be a dumb question, but if parking collections go private, who's in charge of parking enforcement?

The JEA Board?  (just trying to get back on track ...  :D )

LOL... so much for tangents....
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Sports / Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Last post by Non-RedNeck Westsider on Yesterday at 07:19:58 PM »
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Considering some of your previous Blake comments, I won’t even ask about the roster talent disagreement.

Fair enough.

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However, to expand on the fan experience....

We don’t buy the club seats for the club...just the view and seat comfort.

Something else I've noticed after the past couple years of road games...  Are we the only stadium that puts their club seats on the most premium spot of the field?  Dallas, all the seating is more expensive, but there were no perks for tickets near mid-field.  Same with the Giants, same with the Texans, same with the Bucs.  I was just at the Charlotte game 3 rows from the field on the 45 yd line and paid less than $200 / seat, which was a good buy, but there were several in the $300 range to choose from. 

Our 'club section' starts at $350ish per seat per game?  And it's a HUGE part of the image problem we have when the camera pans over the crowd and you see all the empty grey seats right in the middle of the stadium.

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Sports / Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Last post by sanmarcomatt on Yesterday at 06:42:00 PM »
Why do you think 2020 will be ugly?

I'm guessing that's coming from a fan/attendance standpoint - which I would agree with - than a team talent standpoint - which I would disagree.

I will say that the team HAS to fix these gate issues and getting fans into and out of the stadium.  Now that I've been to a couple different stadiums and see how they operate, and with the hassles that occur on a regular here, I can't blame people for staying home and/or leaving the stadium in the 3rd quarter or not showing up until well after the game has started.

Standing in line for half an hour (10 min at most LY) is complete bullshit, and not getting home until 6:30 (typically a half hour after 0:00) is also complete bullshit.  I don't really know what changed from last year, but it's horrible right now.

Considering some of your previous Blake comments, I won’t even ask about the roster talent disagreement.

However, to expand on the fan experience....

We don’t buy the club seats for the club...just the view and seat comfort. However, when we are in there, we have been less than impressed with the remodel. First, we weren’t wowed anyway, but essentially for thousands of dollars, we get the privilege to buy overpriced less than impressive food, watch some pregame shows with no sound, and if we get there early enough we can avoid sitting on the floor since they don’t provide enough chairs. We have given up our chairs several times in previous years just because it really bothered us to see certain people sitting on the floor. I was embarrassed for the organization.



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Sports / Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Last post by sanmarcomatt on Yesterday at 06:16:35 PM »
Why do you think 2020 will be ugly?

I have not been shy on my opinions that the Jags roster construction has been awful but understand some of that was driven by the short term need to show a much better product on the field.

I think the combination of their roster ,2020 cap room and lack of any meaningful additional draft capital accrued is going to lead to a pretty weak team next year especially with what the other teams in the division have in comparison. And while much can change heading into next year, not liking how the schedule is looking, especially the NFC north.

I also think it is looking really bad for ticket sales barring a much stronger finish to this season than I am anticipating. they were not great this year and I think they will be even worse next year. It is looking like only one really good home game draw in Pittsburgh as well but not sure if the Bears are a great draw.
I can only speak to premium but was offered quite a hefty discount to renew( on top of the loyalty) but they are such a rip off compared to what we can buy them on the secondary market, it is ridiculous. I believe in supporting the local team but after monster price increases, at this point it is charity to a billionaire. I may be wealthy by most standards, but please. It has reached joke level with the financial loss of being a season ticket holder. I can’t be alone with this line of thinking.

Combine that with what appears to be a general trend in the NFL of attendance being down and let’s just say I am less than optimistic about 2020. I certainly hope I am dead wrong on all points.

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Sports / Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Last post by Non-RedNeck Westsider on Yesterday at 05:25:34 PM »
Why do you think 2020 will be ugly?

I'm guessing that's coming from a fan/attendance standpoint - which I would agree with - than a team talent standpoint - which I would disagree.

I will say that the team HAS to fix these gate issues and getting fans into and out of the stadium.  Now that I've been to a couple different stadiums and see how they operate, and with the hassles that occur on a regular here, I can't blame people for staying home and/or leaving the stadium in the 3rd quarter or not showing up until well after the game has started.

Standing in line for half an hour (10 min at most LY) is complete bullshit, and not getting home until 6:30 (typically a half hour after 0:00) is also complete bullshit.  I don't really know what changed from last year, but it's horrible right now.
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Sports / Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Last post by thelakelander on Yesterday at 04:56:10 PM »
Why do you think 2020 will be ugly?
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