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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Downtown => Topic started by: Ken_FSU on September 17, 2020, 11:05:53 AM

Title: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: Ken_FSU on September 17, 2020, 11:05:53 AM
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/u-haul-to-develop-lavilla-property
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: thelakelander on September 17, 2020, 11:10:24 AM
Love this! I was worried about this old Goodyear Tire warehouse surviving after the cabinet manufacturer moved out.
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: Steve on September 17, 2020, 12:47:38 PM
Why don't they demolish this and build from scratch?

(obviously in jest)

This is great - cool building on a main road.

Curious if they keep the Downtown location at Ashley and Pearl once this is developed. Not sure how long that one has been there.
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: blizz01 on September 17, 2020, 01:03:12 PM
With the truck on the roof?  That's iconic or an eyesore depending on perspective....
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: Bativac on September 17, 2020, 02:34:14 PM
With the truck on the roof?  That's iconic or an eyesore depending on perspective....

It is both! An iconic eyesore. Like the old Goony Golf dinosaur on Beach Blvd (yeah...I said it)
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: marcuscnelson on September 17, 2020, 02:48:43 PM
Why don't they demolish this and build from scratch?

(obviously in jest)

This, but unironically.

- bl8jaxnative, probably
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: bl8jaxnative on September 17, 2020, 04:05:39 PM
I hope your ignorance is blissful
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: thelakelander on September 18, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
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U-Haul to restore historic Rail Yard District warehouse

(https://photos.moderncities.com/Cities/Jacksonville/Neighborhoods/LaVilla-July-2020/i-48TDRpX/0/a1b3e7f0/L/20200829_122603-L.jpg)

U-Haul Moving & Storage plans to restore 91-year-old LaVilla warehouse into a self storage center.


Read More: https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/u-haul-to-restore-historic-rail-yard-district-warehouse/
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: jaxlongtimer on September 18, 2020, 02:14:32 PM
This is refreshing to see and I hope it inspires other developers in our City to do more of the same as they see this come to fruition.  Nothing like leading by example!  As these buildings date from the same era as the Doro, maybe those developers will take note.

This is not only part of historic Lavilla but also falls within the Rail Yard District so it's a double win for impacting both areas.
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: bl8jaxnative on September 18, 2020, 04:08:10 PM

The costs for turning a warehouse into a self storage facility are going to be managable.

If you're looking to turn an old non-residential building into a residential building, you're looking at it costing 40%, 60%, sometimes more than twice as much per square foot than if you were merely building new from scratch.
Title: Re: U-Haul to Develop Lavilla Property
Post by: jaxlongtimer on September 18, 2020, 04:35:13 PM
If you're looking to turn an old non-residential building into a residential building, you're looking at it costing 40%, 60%, sometimes more than twice as much per square foot than if you were merely building new from scratch.

First, developers often get tax credits, grants or other assistance to defray such costs.  They also often pay less for the existing building due to the additional costs to make it usable.  Lastly, when the building is rehabbed, it has an intangible added value due to is character, history and uniqueness that will draw more people to it than just another blah cubic building so often typical of today's structures.

Even if money is no object, it is often nearly impossible to duplicate the materials and craftsmanship found mostly before WW II in a totally new structure.  If you could duplicate it, it would likely cost more than rehabbing an existing building so the existing building looks more "affordable" at that point.

Now, if you are good with laminate floors, spay-on stucco or other fake finishes, lousy lumber from trees less than 20 years old, manufactured building elements with no character (e.g. fireplaces), Styrofoam architectural details (if any at all), particleboard, corner-cutting construction techniques, "builders grade" items designed to barely outlast their warranties, cookie-cutter buildings in the thousands, throw-away fixtures, etc. so often found in indistinguishable buildings today, have at it.