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Living in Jacksonville => Dining => Topic started by: KenFSU on July 10, 2019, 11:36:14 PM

Title: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: KenFSU on July 10, 2019, 11:36:14 PM
This is not a drill.

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20190710/safe-harbor-seafood-announces-it-will-drop-anchor-in-riverside-at-five-points
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Lucasjj on July 11, 2019, 07:09:43 AM
I talked to a person at Marah Brewing Company (formerly O'Brothers) back on Memorial Day weekend and they said they were partnering with Safe Harbor. Marah would continue to do the beer and Safe Harbor would run the food operation.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: wanderson91 on July 11, 2019, 07:30:15 AM
Oooooo, I will now have two good seafood spots to choose from! That's exciting!
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Captain Zissou on July 11, 2019, 09:44:33 AM
Can somebody post the location from the article.  I hate the TU.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Tacachale on July 11, 2019, 10:11:12 AM
Can somebody post the location from the article.  I hate the TU.

The article doesn't say and the company has been tight lipped, but word on the street is that it would be the food purveyor at Marah Brewing Company, the former O'Brothers.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Captain Zissou on July 11, 2019, 10:37:27 AM
Really?  That's about a third of the size I would expect them to take.  If they aren't going to rework that space, it's going to be an interesting set up.  I'd rather see them invest more in a larger facility. 
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Steve on July 11, 2019, 12:28:28 PM
Yep, that’s the location. There’s a sign on the building (just walked past).
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: wanderson91 on July 11, 2019, 02:19:06 PM
It's not gonna be a full restaurant, though. I imagine it'll be more along the lines of Black Sheep at Inutition.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Kerry on July 12, 2019, 09:00:27 AM
Has RAP signed off on this yet?
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Steve on July 12, 2019, 09:02:59 AM
Has RAP signed off on this yet?

Why would they need to?
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Lostwave on July 12, 2019, 09:37:16 AM
It's not gonna be a full restaurant, though. I imagine it'll be more along the lines of Black Sheep at Inutition.

The Safe Harbor at Beach Marine is tiny.  Its got a walk up counter and a few tables inside.  Most of the seating is outside.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: acme54321 on July 12, 2019, 02:09:30 PM
It's not gonna be a full restaurant, though. I imagine it'll be more along the lines of Black Sheep at Inutition.

The Safe Harbor at Beach Marine is tiny.  Its got a walk up counter and a few tables inside.  Most of the seating is outside.

That "outside" is essentially inside though.  There's gotta be seating for over 100 under roof and more on the actual outside tables on the way to the docks.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Kerry on July 13, 2019, 09:55:18 PM
Has RAP signed off on this yet?

Why would they need to?

Because they oppose most stuff.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: acme54321 on July 14, 2019, 06:35:44 AM
Has RAP signed off on this yet?

Why would they need to?

Because they oppose most stuff.

That block isn't in the historic district.  What grounds would they stand on to oppose it anyway?
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Tacachale on July 14, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
Has RAP signed off on this yet?

Why would they need to?

Because they oppose most stuff.

That block isn't in the historic district.  What grounds would they stand on to oppose it anyway?

I doubt RAP would have any problem with this. It’s been a restaurant space for a lot of years. Kerry’s just being Kerry.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Steve on July 14, 2019, 03:28:43 PM
Has RAP signed off on this yet?

Why would they need to?

Because they oppose most stuff.

Do they? Are you aware of what they’ve green lit without a discussion?
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Captain Zissou on July 15, 2019, 09:53:51 AM
Has RAP signed off on this yet?

Why would they need to?

Because they oppose most stuff.

Do they? Are you aware of what they’ve green lit without a discussion?

Kerry's ability to weigh in on stuff he knows nothing about is unparalleled on this forum.  For instance, he probably has no idea that you used to be on the RAP board and are the most knowledgeable person here in regards to what they do and do not sign off on.  Despite this, he charges ahead spouting off about how RAP is the gatekeeper for who can run the food program at an existing business.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2019, 10:32:43 AM
Has RAP signed off on this yet?

Why would they need to?

Because they oppose most stuff.

Do they? Are you aware of what they’ve green lit without a discussion?

Kerry's ability to weigh in on stuff he knows nothing about is unparalleled on this forum.  For instance, he probably has no idea that you used to be on the RAP board and are the most knowledgeable person here in regards to what they do and do not sign off on.  Despite this, he charges ahead spouting off about how RAP is the gatekeeper for who can run the food program at an existing business.

You're right. The constant negativity just grinds on me. I'm the first to admit RAP doesn't get everything right. Even when I was there, I look back on things and say, "wow, I wish I considered X and spoke up on it."

This one is just one that I can't fathom a challenge on. It's been a restaurant with a full bar since I've lived in Florida.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Kerry on July 15, 2019, 03:31:20 PM
Wow you guys are sensitive.  "Has RAP signed off on this", is a simple question.  RAP has opposed lots of restaurants and other developments, some of which that aren't even in their boundary - they seems to have an issue with anything that might increase traffic.  If RAP did review it the answer is "Yes".
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Peter Griffin on July 15, 2019, 03:48:10 PM
Wow you guys are sensitive.  "Has RAP signed off on this", is a simple question.  RAP has opposed lots of restaurants and other developments, some of which that aren't even in their boundary - they seems to have an issue with anything that might increase traffic.  If RAP did review it the answer is "Yes".

Yeah, you got kinda dogpiled here. Your question made it look like you had assumed this was a new restaurant being built in 5 Points, when the reality of the situation is that this restaurateur is filling the vacant kitchen at the current Marah Brewing bar/restaurant.

Marah Brewing has had guest chefs in their kitchen before, I got a decent pasta dish from there a few months ago, but it seems now they've elected to have this seafood restaurant pickup their kitchen space permanently.

Seems like a misunderstanding. This forum can be a bit toxic at times. 
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2019, 04:50:31 PM
Wow you guys are sensitive.  "Has RAP signed off on this", is a simple question.  RAP has opposed lots of restaurants and other developments, some of which that aren't even in their boundary - they seems to have an issue with anything that might increase traffic.  If RAP did review it the answer is "Yes".

You're right, the constant negativity did get to me.

Kerry, to directly answer your question: RAP legally doesn't sign off on anything. The COJ does. Now, given that the place is currently permitted to be a restaurant by right, no zoning review needs to take place. Thus, there is nothing to sign off on by either the city.

While I suppose in theory RAP could raise an issue with it (as we all know you can sue anyone for anything at any time; just doesn't mean you'll win), I can't imagine what any objection would be as the use is effectively the same as the last three tenants, except I believe Marah doesn't offer liquor when the other three did.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2019, 05:01:24 PM
Wow you guys are sensitive.  "Has RAP signed off on this", is a simple question.  RAP has opposed lots of restaurants and other developments, some of which that aren't even in their boundary - they seems to have an issue with anything that might increase traffic.  If RAP did review it the answer is "Yes".

Let's let this go, but I also responded to your question with a simple question. Without knowing what they've approved without even a discussion (even if you collected everything they opposed), you can't say they oppose "most stuff".

Moving on.....

Anyone know a timeline for this? I've seen the awning, but that's all I know.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: MusicMan on August 28, 2019, 08:35:23 AM
I noticed this place yesterday. It is kind of tucked back in there and the sign is hard to see. Is it a great place? I love fried shrimp, and am always on the lookout for places to get some.   Please advise.

Also, Marco and Eddy have their new place, CINCO, open next to Ribault Bakery on Lomax Street. Has anyone been? It seemed to open without any fanfare at all............
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: acme54321 on August 28, 2019, 09:20:22 AM
Safe Harbor's fried shrimp is tops.  Fried shrmp and blackend scallop basket...  I'm drooling.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Tacachale on August 28, 2019, 09:57:43 AM
Safe Harbor is the best place in Jax and one of the best places anywhere for shrimp. Very much looking forward to this.
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: jaxjags on August 29, 2019, 04:32:26 PM
I noticed this place yesterday. It is kind of tucked back in there and the sign is hard to see. Is it a great place? I love fried shrimp, and am always on the lookout for places to get some.   Please advise.

Also, Marco and Eddy have their new place, CINCO, open next to Ribault Bakery on Lomax Street. Has anyone been? It seemed to open without any fanfare at all............


Had fried Mayport shrimp basket with cucumber salad there yesterday. Delicious!
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: MusicMan on August 30, 2019, 08:29:41 AM
I was going to get a take out yesterday and it was really packed around 7 30 pm when I had the chance. Will have to wait til next time...
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: Captain Zissou on August 30, 2019, 09:24:06 AM
I tried to go for lunch yesterday and it was slammed.  Taqueria Cinco was packed too.  Had to go to Derby. 
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: wanderson91 on September 05, 2019, 10:41:59 AM
Cinco is fantastic, I went last Thursday and had to order my stuff to go becuase it was so packed. The ribeye taco was the best one I tried, but I've heard great things about the fish tacos and veggie tacos.

I'm really excited to get to Safe Harbor at Marah!
Title: Re: SAFE HARBOR TO RIVERSIDE
Post by: MusicMan on September 11, 2019, 10:29:46 AM
Got over to Safe Harbor Monday night and had fried shrimp basket plus fresh catch, blackened mahi mahi.  Outstanding!!!

Also had Sierra Nevada Pale Ale on tap, one of my favs.  Will go again for sure. Went to CINCO for churros, also very good.