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Title: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Kiva on June 09, 2019, 04:42:41 PM
USA have their first game at 3 p.m. on Tuesday. They should have a pretty easy win against Thailand, but Sweden on June 20th will be an interesting game. Is anyone else following this?
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on June 10, 2019, 06:24:07 AM
USA have their first game at 3 p.m. on Tuesday. They should have a pretty easy win against Thailand, but Sweden on June 20th will be an interesting game. Is anyone else following this?

I watched a bit of England v Scotland yesterday. Not crazy about women's soccer, but the match had its moments!
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 10, 2019, 07:34:36 AM
Watched Spain beat South Africa... I will try and catch the Americans... otherwise will probably only watch if there is some kind of compelling match up or nothing else is on...
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on June 10, 2019, 10:47:41 AM
There's a decent amount of new teams and teams that haven't qualified in decades, so I'm excited to watch them (Italy, Jamaica, South Africa, etc)

It's always nice to see different combos of teams, so I'm looking forward to this World Cup. The first few games have been excellent. Italy beating Australia in the 95th minute was wild.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 11, 2019, 04:52:21 PM
Um... pretty good start.  13-0
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on June 11, 2019, 07:12:28 PM
Great way to remind everyone who the defending champs are, tbh
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Tacachale on June 11, 2019, 08:08:57 PM
^For real!
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Snaketoz on June 12, 2019, 07:43:03 AM
USA looked awesome.  Thailand looked baffled.  Nice start!
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 16, 2019, 03:20:22 PM
Another lopsided victory...would have been more than 3-0 but for the awesome efforts of Chile's goaltender...
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Kiva on June 16, 2019, 04:02:50 PM
With two wins they are definitely through to the next round. The game against Sweden should be more interesting!
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on June 17, 2019, 07:34:46 PM
The Chilean keeper was phenomenal. I hope we see Endler in the NWSL when her European contract is up
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on June 19, 2019, 05:37:26 PM
Argentina was down 3-0 with 16 minutes and came back to tie with Scotland, finishing third and taking away Scotland's chance to advance. Nigeria now has a chance to end up in the knockout round, depending on how the four games go tomorrow.

Coincidentally, both the Arg/Sco and Fra/Nig games came down to VAR redoing a penalty kick because a keeper was off the line.

There have been a lot of valid complaints about VAR in the tourney because neither the refs nor the players had any type of adjustment period in qualifiers or friendlies to get used to VAR. So far, it's played a *huge* role in the tournament and I hope it makes FIFA reconsider some rules or in what instances VAR is implemented.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Charles Hunter on June 19, 2019, 05:38:47 PM
VAR?
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on June 19, 2019, 05:56:58 PM
VAR?

Video Assistant Referee. Or "instant replay", if you will.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on June 20, 2019, 06:40:30 AM
VAR?

Video Assistant Referee. Or "instant replay", if you will.

Update: it appears that VAR won't be used to check whether or not a keeper has left his line in the Premier League

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-va-rs-will-not-call-for-penalty-retakes-after-scotlands-dramatic-womens-world-cup-defeat-091647490.html
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on June 20, 2019, 11:14:54 AM
Because leave it to FIFA to test out a rule in the biggest women's soccer tournament so that they can decide if it'll work in men's soccer. The disrespect, tbh
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on June 20, 2019, 01:47:05 PM
Because leave it to FIFA to test out a rule in the biggest women's soccer tournament so that they can decide if it'll work in men's soccer. The disrespect, tbh

FIFA doesn't decide what gets used in national leagues. I don't see this as a test - and to be fair, it seems perfectly reasonable.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: JaxJersey-licious on June 20, 2019, 04:38:35 PM
So that second goal for the US someone was clearly offsides which should of negated anything after that kick but play was allowed because of a deflection...? Please explain cuz my brain now hurts.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on June 20, 2019, 05:58:24 PM
So that second goal for the US someone was clearly offsides which should of negated anything after that kick but play was allowed because of a deflection...? Please explain cuz my brain now hurts.

The defending player made contact with the ball, not Carli. I know the commentator was trying to say she impacted the play, but if she never touches the ball, it doesn't matter if she's offsides, I believe. And Heath was on onsides when the original pass was made.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Kiva on June 20, 2019, 07:15:55 PM
US had the majority of the possession, and were in charge of the game and deserved to win. Spain is next, should be a US win, then the probable game against France. That could go either way.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on June 21, 2019, 01:53:52 AM
So that second goal for the US someone was clearly offsides which should of negated anything after that kick but play was allowed because of a deflection...? Please explain cuz my brain now hurts.

The defending player made contact with the ball, not Carli. I know the commentator was trying to say she impacted the play, but if she never touches the ball, it doesn't matter if she's offsides, I believe. And Heath was on onsides when the original pass was made.

Being in an offside position is only an offence if you are involved in/impacting play or are the recipient of a pass.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on June 21, 2019, 09:32:43 AM
US had the majority of the possession, and were in charge of the game and deserved to win. Spain is next, should be a US win, then the probable game against France. That could go either way.

Spain's been having a good tournament, so that may be a more challenging game than people think.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 24, 2019, 01:17:16 PM
The Spaniards are very physical...  8)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 24, 2019, 01:28:07 PM
20 minutes to go... 1-1 tie...
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 24, 2019, 01:35:35 PM
Rapinoe score penalty kick... VAR confirmed penalty
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 24, 2019, 01:58:18 PM
USA Wins!  8)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Tacachale on June 24, 2019, 02:11:46 PM
USA Wins!  8)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/jShr8wkP38XTO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on June 24, 2019, 02:16:19 PM
Happy we won, even happier we had to play a tough, physical game that wasn't a breeze for us. Gonna have to make a few lineup changes for France, honestly
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Snufflee on June 24, 2019, 03:03:26 PM
It was a cheap penalty, but a penalty none the less. VAR actually was used correctly, confirmed the officials call on the field of contact. 
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 24, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
It was a cheap penalty, but a penalty none the less. VAR actually was used correctly, confirmed the officials call on the field of contact. 

I would have to say that rather than it being a cheap penalty... It was actually quite expensive...   ;)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Snufflee on June 24, 2019, 03:21:40 PM
It was a cheap penalty, but a penalty none the less. VAR actually was used correctly, confirmed the officials call on the field of contact. 

I would have to say that rather than it being a cheap penalty... It was actually quite expensive...   ;)

Haha that it was.

Comments on the game, the path to "Gold" is never easy. I give the US Team props for not panicking when things were not developing in the offensive zone and maintaining ball control dominance.

It may have been a minimal contact penalty but good things happen to teams that play in control and take advantage of opportunities. 
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 28, 2019, 03:07:21 PM
Well... THAT didnt take long... USA 1-0
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on June 28, 2019, 04:56:33 PM
Final... 2-1 USA...  8)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Kiva on June 28, 2019, 06:33:28 PM
It was a good game. Next up is England on Tuesday.  ;D
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: pierre on June 30, 2019, 09:27:16 AM
Jacksonville was in the top 5 of US markets in terms of ratings for the game on Friday.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019/06/uswnt-france-womens-world-cup-rating/

Another reason it is incredibly sad that this city does not have a team to cheer for, beyond a semi-pro version of what is left of the Armada.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: blizz01 on June 30, 2019, 09:57:15 AM
I wonder how much of that has to do with the run of National Team (men and women) friendlies that came through Jax a few years back.  Also, I believe that I read somewhere that there were several women representing multiple counties with North Florida ties.  I believe that Morgan Brian (USA) played with the Florida Sol in Fleming Island and Jamaica's Sade Adamolekun graduated from Fleming Island High School.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 01, 2019, 03:41:52 AM
Jacksonville was in the top 5 of US markets in terms of ratings for the game on Friday.

https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019/06/uswnt-france-womens-world-cup-rating/

Another reason it is incredibly sad that this city does not have a team to cheer for, beyond a semi-pro version of what is left of the Armada.

I read somewhere that the US women's jersey is the best-selling jersey of all time on Nike.com. As in it is selling better than any other football shirt Nike has ever sold on Nike.com (for any team - club or country). It's crazy that women's soccer is so popular in America - I think it's a great thing. Too bad about the arrogance.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 01, 2019, 08:51:26 AM
What arrogance?
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 01, 2019, 08:55:53 AM
What arrogance?

Saying things like you have the best team in the world...and the second best team in the world (referring to the reserves). Or making comments that pre-supposed they will be in the final.

And whilst I don't fault them for continuing to score against Thailand, there is something very unsporting about the way they celebrated after every single goal.

The US team is clearly the team to beat - but a bit of humility might do them well.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 01, 2019, 09:11:04 AM
What arrogance?

Saying things like you have the best team in the world...and the second best team in the world (referring to the reserves). Or making comments that pre-supposed they will be in the final.

And whilst I don't fault them for continuing to score against Thailand, there is something very unsporting about the way they celebrated after every single goal.

The US team is clearly the team to beat - but a bit of humility might do them well.

Rubbish... you say it yourself... they are clearly the team to beat.  Don't confuse confidence with arrogance...  Also... I am certain everyone would agree that scoring a goal in the World cup is special for the individual scoring it.  They should be allowed to celebrate.  I saw no evidence of taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 01, 2019, 09:14:37 AM
What arrogance?

Saying things like you have the best team in the world...and the second best team in the world (referring to the reserves). Or making comments that pre-supposed they will be in the final.

And whilst I don't fault them for continuing to score against Thailand, there is something very unsporting about the way they celebrated after every single goal.

The US team is clearly the team to beat - but a bit of humility might do them well.

Rubbish... you say it yourself... they are clearly the team to beat.  Don't confuse confidence with arrogance...  Also... I am certain everyone would agree that scoring a goal in the World cup is special for the individual scoring it.  They should be allowed to celebrate.  I saw no evidence of taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct.

You don't watch much soccer, do you?
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 01, 2019, 09:22:59 AM
What arrogance?

Saying things like you have the best team in the world...and the second best team in the world (referring to the reserves). Or making comments that pre-supposed they will be in the final.

And whilst I don't fault them for continuing to score against Thailand, there is something very unsporting about the way they celebrated after every single goal.

The US team is clearly the team to beat - but a bit of humility might do them well.

Rubbish... you say it yourself... they are clearly the team to beat.  Don't confuse confidence with arrogance...  Also... I am certain everyone would agree that scoring a goal in the World cup is special for the individual scoring it.  They should be allowed to celebrate.  I saw no evidence of taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct.

You don't watch much soccer, do you?

Define ..."much".  I do have to split time between family... American football, baseball, hockey, and soccer.  Not sure what you are implying but you are still off base and clearly a bit sensitive/nervous...
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 01, 2019, 09:31:39 AM
What arrogance?

Saying things like you have the best team in the world...and the second best team in the world (referring to the reserves). Or making comments that pre-supposed they will be in the final.

And whilst I don't fault them for continuing to score against Thailand, there is something very unsporting about the way they celebrated after every single goal.

The US team is clearly the team to beat - but a bit of humility might do them well.

Rubbish... you say it yourself... they are clearly the team to beat.  Don't confuse confidence with arrogance...  Also... I am certain everyone would agree that scoring a goal in the World cup is special for the individual scoring it.  They should be allowed to celebrate.  I saw no evidence of taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct.

You don't watch much soccer, do you?

Define ..."much".  I do have to split time between family... American football, baseball, hockey, and soccer.  Not sure what you are implying but you are still off base and clearly a bit sensitive/nervous...

I'm not sensitive or nervous (and I note that you're the one who took exception to my original post - so I could make the same claim about you).

I just think you *might* not really have an understanding of what is expected. When the number one ranked team continues to exuberantly celebrate each goal it scores on its way to demolishing the 34th ranked team (and first time WC participants) by a scoreline of 13-0, it looks bad and could be considered excessive. And it was noted in the press - so it's not really a good look for the USA. It's okay to score the goals and it's okay to celebrate - but they should've dialed it down a bit after the fifth or six (or seventh) goal. Basically, once it was clear they had it in the bag.

I guess, as an American, I *do* find it a bit embarrassing. And the comments about having the second best team in the world, in addition to being incorrect, also come across like arrogance. As you said, there is a difference between confidence and arrogance.

In any event, as they say, opinions are like assholes.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Tacachale on July 01, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
I don't mind celebration and we're certainly the team to beat, but I'm with Adam. Enough with the overkill.

(https://morbotron.com/video/S03E15/5FBwBDz0Yvxq2kHGGvfCDAxaO6U=.gif)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 01, 2019, 09:53:44 AM
I don't mind celebration and we're certainly the team to beat, but I'm with Adam. Enough with the overkill.

(https://morbotron.com/video/S03E15/5FBwBDz0Yvxq2kHGGvfCDAxaO6U=.gif)

You know, this makes me wonder if Jacksonville ought to look into getting a women's soccer team.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Tacachale on July 01, 2019, 10:05:23 AM
I don't mind celebration and we're certainly the team to beat, but I'm with Adam. Enough with the overkill.

(https://morbotron.com/video/S03E15/5FBwBDz0Yvxq2kHGGvfCDAxaO6U=.gif)

You know, this makes me wonder if Jacksonville ought to look into getting a women's soccer team.

The challenge with soccer here is that there's no great place to play. You're either renting at UNF or looking at building your own stadium. Or I guess spending crazy money to play at the Baseball Grounds like the Armada did before having to go with the other options.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 01, 2019, 10:12:51 AM
I don't mind celebration and we're certainly the team to beat, but I'm with Adam. Enough with the overkill.

(https://morbotron.com/video/S03E15/5FBwBDz0Yvxq2kHGGvfCDAxaO6U=.gif)

You know, this makes me wonder if Jacksonville ought to look into getting a women's soccer team.


The challenge with soccer here is that there's no great place to play. You're either renting at UNF or looking at building your own stadium. Or I guess spending crazy money to play at the Baseball Grounds like the Armada did before having to go with the other options.

Maybe Khan could buy a team and build a small stadium at the Shipyards. He can put it right next to the USS Orleck.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: pierre on July 01, 2019, 10:22:51 AM
The challenge with soccer here is that there's no great place to play. You're either renting at UNF or looking at building your own stadium. Or I guess spending crazy money to play at the Baseball Grounds like the Armada did before having to go with the other options.

I don't foresee much happening with any of those options. I think, despite there being a fan base here to support it, that there won't be pro soccer in Jacksonville any time soon.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Tacachale on July 01, 2019, 10:40:29 AM
The challenge with soccer here is that there's no great place to play. You're either renting at UNF or looking at building your own stadium. Or I guess spending crazy money to play at the Baseball Grounds like the Armada did before having to go with the other options.

I don't foresee much happening with any of those options. I think, despite there being a fan base here to support it, that there won't be pro soccer in Jacksonville any time soon.

A couple of years ago, the USL was looking at putting a team in Jax to play at UNF's Hodges Stadium. The Armada ended up getting the lease. Now that their effectively defunct, I don't see why the USL couldn't move in. Presumably it's a matter of getting an owner.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: pierre on July 01, 2019, 12:13:46 PM
The challenge with soccer here is that there's no great place to play. You're either renting at UNF or looking at building your own stadium. Or I guess spending crazy money to play at the Baseball Grounds like the Armada did before having to go with the other options.

I don't foresee much happening with any of those options. I think, despite there being a fan base here to support it, that there won't be pro soccer in Jacksonville any time soon.

A couple of years ago, the USL was looking at putting a team in Jax to play at UNF's Hodges Stadium. The Armada ended up getting the lease. Now that their effectively defunct, I don't see why the USL couldn't move in. Presumably it's a matter of getting an owner.

I seem to remember hearing that too.

Obviously, the Armada made a gigantic error in sticking with the NASL when others jumped ship.

Hodges may be a temporary solution, as it is basically a glorified high school football field. But they would need a long term solution. And an owner, as you mentioned.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 01, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
What arrogance?

Saying things like you have the best team in the world...and the second best team in the world (referring to the reserves). Or making comments that pre-supposed they will be in the final.

And whilst I don't fault them for continuing to score against Thailand, there is something very unsporting about the way they celebrated after every single goal.

The US team is clearly the team to beat - but a bit of humility might do them well.

Rubbish... you say it yourself... they are clearly the team to beat.  Don't confuse confidence with arrogance...  Also... I am certain everyone would agree that scoring a goal in the World cup is special for the individual scoring it.  They should be allowed to celebrate.  I saw no evidence of taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct.

You don't watch much soccer, do you?

Define ..."much".  I do have to split time between family... American football, baseball, hockey, and soccer.  Not sure what you are implying but you are still off base and clearly a bit sensitive/nervous...

I'm not sensitive or nervous (and I note that you're the one who took exception to my original post - so I could make the same claim about you).

I just think you *might* not really have an understanding of what is expected. When the number one ranked team continues to exuberantly celebrate each goal it scores on its way to demolishing the 34th ranked team (and first time WC participants) by a scoreline of 13-0, it looks bad and could be considered excessive. And it was noted in the press - so it's not really a good look for the USA. It's okay to score the goals and it's okay to celebrate - but they should've dialed it down a bit after the fifth or six (or seventh) goal. Basically, once it was clear they had it in the bag.

I guess, as an American, I *do* find it a bit embarrassing. And the comments about having the second best team in the world, in addition to being incorrect, also come across like arrogance. As you said, there is a difference between confidence and arrogance.

In any event, as they say, opinions are like assholes.

Well hopefully they don't celebrate "too excessively or exuberant or overkilly" tomorrow...   :)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 01, 2019, 02:57:20 PM
What arrogance?

Saying things like you have the best team in the world...and the second best team in the world (referring to the reserves). Or making comments that pre-supposed they will be in the final.

And whilst I don't fault them for continuing to score against Thailand, there is something very unsporting about the way they celebrated after every single goal.

The US team is clearly the team to beat - but a bit of humility might do them well.

Rubbish... you say it yourself... they are clearly the team to beat.  Don't confuse confidence with arrogance...  Also... I am certain everyone would agree that scoring a goal in the World cup is special for the individual scoring it.  They should be allowed to celebrate.  I saw no evidence of taunting or unsportsmanlike conduct.

You don't watch much soccer, do you?

Define ..."much".  I do have to split time between family... American football, baseball, hockey, and soccer.  Not sure what you are implying but you are still off base and clearly a bit sensitive/nervous...

I'm not sensitive or nervous (and I note that you're the one who took exception to my original post - so I could make the same claim about you).

I just think you *might* not really have an understanding of what is expected. When the number one ranked team continues to exuberantly celebrate each goal it scores on its way to demolishing the 34th ranked team (and first time WC participants) by a scoreline of 13-0, it looks bad and could be considered excessive. And it was noted in the press - so it's not really a good look for the USA. It's okay to score the goals and it's okay to celebrate - but they should've dialed it down a bit after the fifth or six (or seventh) goal. Basically, once it was clear they had it in the bag.

I guess, as an American, I *do* find it a bit embarrassing. And the comments about having the second best team in the world, in addition to being incorrect, also come across like arrogance. As you said, there is a difference between confidence and arrogance.

In any event, as they say, opinions are like assholes.

Well hopefully they don't celebrate "too excessively or exuberant or overkilly" tomorrow...   :)

"LOLâ„¢"
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 02, 2019, 03:13:19 PM
Hopefully they were not too exuberant... USA 1-0...  ;)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 02, 2019, 03:21:58 PM
tied or equalized at 1... 8)
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on July 02, 2019, 04:58:59 PM
USA wins 2-1

What a match

WE'RE GOING TO THE FINAAAAAAAAAAAALS
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 02, 2019, 05:03:13 PM
Hopefully they were not too exuberant... USA 1-0...  ;)

There's nothing wrong with exuberantly celebrating a goal when you're playing the number 3-ranked team and you're now 1-0 up.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 02, 2019, 05:33:37 PM
Hopefully they were not too exuberant... USA 1-0...  ;)

There's nothing wrong with exuberantly celebrating a goal when you're playing the number 3-ranked team and you're now 1-0 up.
Thanks for the clarification...  I wasn't sure...
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Kiva on July 02, 2019, 05:38:14 PM
That was a good game. It was hard fought and pretty even in terms of possession. Great result! So next is either Sweden or Netherlands. We've already beaten Sweden 2-0 in this World Cup but Netherlands are favorites to win tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 02, 2019, 05:44:16 PM
Hopefully they were not too exuberant... USA 1-0...  ;)

There's nothing wrong with exuberantly celebrating a goal when you're playing the number 3-ranked team and you're now 1-0 up.
Thanks for the clarification...  I wasn't sure...

Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Snaketoz on July 02, 2019, 07:48:28 PM
I was really scared that England would prevail.  The US looked very good in first half, not so good in second.  Good win.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on July 03, 2019, 08:04:54 AM
That was a good game. It was hard fought and pretty even in terms of possession. Great result! So next is either Sweden or Netherlands. We've already beaten Sweden 2-0 in this World Cup but Netherlands are favorites to win tomorrow.

I wouldn't even think about that Sweden game as a meter for anything. I'm happy the US won that game, but Sweden also didn't play with their usual starting lineup. I'd rather play the Netherlands (2017 Euro Champs) than Sweden.

I was really scared that England would prevail.  The US looked very good in first half, not so good in second.  Good win.

For some strange reason (and for the second game in a row) we fall back into a 5-2-3 in the second half, which is absurd, because we give up so much ground and possession, instead of continuing to push for more goals in the run of play. I need Ellis to not do that in the final, because, as we saw in this game, better teams can beat that formation. England had so many chances in the second half that didn't exist in the first half.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Snaketoz on July 03, 2019, 08:59:26 AM
That was a good game. It was hard fought and pretty even in terms of possession. Great result! So next is either Sweden or Netherlands. We've already beaten Sweden 2-0 in this World Cup but Netherlands are favorites to win tomorrow.

I wouldn't even think about that Sweden game as a meter for anything. I'm happy the US won that game, but Sweden also didn't play with their usual starting lineup. I'd rather play the Netherlands (2017 Euro Champs) than Sweden.

I was really scared that England would prevail.  The US looked very good in first half, not so good in second.  Good win.

For some strange reason (and for the second game in a row) we fall back into a 5-2-3 in the second half, which is absurd, because we give up so much ground and possession, instead of continuing to push for more goals in the run of play. I need Ellis to not do that in the final, because, as we saw in this game, better teams can beat that formation. England had so many chances in the second half that didn't exist in the first half.
It's as if the US took a page out of the Jaguars playbook.  Take the lead, stop scoring and play prevent defense.  They were mostly lucky to have prevailed.  I agree, they should have continued to push the ball forward and score more goals, or at least keep the ball in England's end of the pitch.  A lot of bad passes on both sides.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Snaketoz on July 07, 2019, 01:31:18 PM
U.S. women win the World Cup-again!
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Kiva on July 07, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
It was a good game. The Netherlands played well in defense and had some good opportunities. USA have a great team!
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: JeffreyS on July 07, 2019, 06:04:27 PM
The Dutch plan to stay back on defense came unraveled when the US got the PK. Good game,  to beat team USA you had better play perfect. Fantastic job by our team.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: sandyshoes on July 08, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: BridgeTroll on July 08, 2019, 02:41:22 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Tacachale on July 08, 2019, 02:46:31 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o

I agree - to clarify what I said earlier, my only issue was the running up the score. No problem with celebrating, especially when it's done in such a hilarious fashion.

I never feel more proud to be an American than when we beat Europeans at something they think they own.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 08, 2019, 04:01:21 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o

I've not seen anything that indicated it was directed at Piers Morgan - in fact, Alex Morgan herself never said it was. If it was directed at the England players, I'd consider it bad sportsmanship - you shouldn't mock your opponents as part of your celebration.

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Tacachale on July 08, 2019, 04:32:37 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o

I've not seen anything that indicated it was directed at Piers Morgan - in fact, Alex Morgan herself never said it was. If it was directed at the England players, I'd consider it bad sportsmanship - you shouldn't mock your opponents as part of your celebration.

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.

The tea gesture is is a reference to the phrase "that's the tea", which comes from the Kermit the Frog meme. She says it was inspired by Sophie Turner, who's British. It wasn't a dig at the English except insofar as some English commentators like to pretend to be offended about things - for instance, it did piss off Piers Morgan, which is a plus.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 08, 2019, 05:40:12 PM
I agree with the posters about the arrogance and the showboating evidenced by the US Women's Soccer Team.  There used to be a thing called "good sportsmanship" - basically, one should not rub their opponent's face in it when they lose.  Celebrating can be done back at your own hotel, but don't do that little 'teacup / raised pinkie' move (or any others)  as was the one used to insult England when they lost the other day.  That's a wannabee cultural insult, and very base.  But you can't stay classy if you never had any to begin with.  Children are watching how their multimillionaire heroes and sheroes act, and think it's cool to be rude.  Surely some folks of my age recall when our report cards contained a space for Good Citizenship grades, right here in Duval County Public Schools?  This needs to be taught again. 

No one showboated... The teacup sip was directed at the english blowhard Peirs Morgan.  Good lord... let em celebrate...  ::) :o

I've not seen anything that indicated it was directed at Piers Morgan - in fact, Alex Morgan herself never said it was. If it was directed at the England players, I'd consider it bad sportsmanship - you shouldn't mock your opponents as part of your celebration.

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.

The tea gesture is is a reference to the phrase "that's the tea", which comes from the Kermit the Frog meme. She says it was inspired by Sophie Turner, who's British. It wasn't a dig at the English except insofar as some English commentators like to pretend to be offended about things - for instance, it did piss off Piers Morgan, which is a plus.

Yeah, supposedly. I am familiar with the Kermit meme (though had forgotten about it) but wasn't aware of the expression. I am 50% convinced that she was referencing the meme. The other 50% thinks that was a made-up explanation after the furore erupted.

I didn't personally think it was that big of a deal - certainly not anything close to how Piers Morgan saw it. Just typical behaviour, really. The whole thing seems a bit of a storm in a teacup, if you ask me.

(Actually, I don't even think it was a storm in a teacup - I literally heard no one talking about it at all. The only places I saw it mentioned were in the press and in the real press [like the Indy, Guardian, Times, etc] no one made a big deal about it. I assume the sensationalist rags were different [Mail, Sun, Express, etc] but I have no idea).
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: DrQue on July 08, 2019, 06:14:26 PM
I just know that all these USWNT detractors were saying the same thing when the US basketball teams were destroying every nation's team in sight. I mean what Vince Carter did to that poor Frenchmen was completely uncalled for. /s
 
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Kiva on July 08, 2019, 07:45:21 PM

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.

It'd be hard to mime that. Unless you are French!  Like Marcel Marceau ;D
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 09, 2019, 02:11:02 AM

I'm sure you'd get your knickers in a twist if the England players had mimed bombing a wedding party or hospital to take the piss out of the Americans.

It'd be hard to mime that. Unless you are French!  Like Marcel Marceau ;D

Maybe a more direct comparison would be miming eating a harmburger - or twelve.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Captain Zissou on July 09, 2019, 09:20:16 AM
^That's also pretty tough to mime.  What about somebody getting triggered and then raging about it online? That's very American.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Tacachale on July 09, 2019, 09:38:52 AM
^That's also pretty tough to mime.  What about somebody getting triggered and then raging about it online? That's very American.

Considering how the Brits reacted to the tea thing, they'd probably also take getting triggered about something silly as a personal affront to their culture.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: itsfantastic1 on July 09, 2019, 09:56:37 AM
They should've mimed the Americans by scoring another goal
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: Adam White on July 09, 2019, 11:18:38 AM
^That's also pretty tough to mime.  What about somebody getting triggered and then raging about it online? That's very American.

Considering how the Brits reacted to the tea thing, they'd probably also take getting triggered about something silly as a personal affront to their culture.

Brits weren't bothered, as it wasn't their team.

But anyway, no one really cared, as far as I can tell. In fact, no one really paid too much attention to the World Cup over here. It was nice to see England get as far as they did, but the gulf between the USA and the rest of the world is massive. Women's soccer is pretty bad overall, but the USA women are definitely the best at it.
Title: Re: 2019 Women's World Cup
Post by: wanderson91 on July 09, 2019, 11:22:48 AM
IMO, teams that win World Cups can celebrate however they want to. They backed up everything they did. They were defending World Cup champs. Soccer is full of over the top celebrations, that's part of what makes the sport fun to watch! Getting upset because the greatest team in the world celebrated goals how they wanted to is a waste of time, tbh. They're champs, that's all that matters!