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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => Urban Neighborhoods => San Marco => Topic started by: sanmarcomatt on September 13, 2018, 03:12:38 PM

Title: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on September 13, 2018, 03:12:38 PM
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/the-posting-house-is-next-for-former-laylas-in-san-marco

I am intrigued. At the very least, I expect the space to look great based upon the owners blog.

Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Tacachale on September 13, 2018, 03:37:22 PM
Good to see something going in that space.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Kiva on September 13, 2018, 05:59:52 PM
Dog's bollocks! What a great name. It could be pet friendly. Oh, wait! Our overlords, in their wisdom, have decided that dogs are no longer welcome in bars because beer is food! In some parts of the world dogs are food, but apparently food and food don't mix. https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/no-dogs-allowed-jacksonville-brewery-starts-petition-after-fla-dept-of-health-says-no-dogs/77-584779667 (https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/no-dogs-allowed-jacksonville-brewery-starts-petition-after-fla-dept-of-health-says-no-dogs/77-584779667)
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on September 13, 2018, 06:05:44 PM
Dog's bollocks! What a great name. It could be pet friendly. Oh, wait! Our overlords, in their wisdom, have decided that dogs are no longer welcome in bars because beer is food! In some parts of the world dogs are food, but apparently food and food don't mix. https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/no-dogs-allowed-jacksonville-brewery-starts-petition-after-fla-dept-of-health-says-no-dogs/77-584779667 (https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/no-dogs-allowed-jacksonville-brewery-starts-petition-after-fla-dept-of-health-says-no-dogs/77-584779667)


sorry, didn't mean to imply Dog's Bollocks  was the name. Just my Brit way of saying it was outstanding news.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Kiva on September 13, 2018, 06:31:01 PM
I realized that dog's bollocks is not the real name  ;D. Elephant and castle, Rose and crown, Red lion, there are lots of traditional names. But Dog's bollocks is definitely memorable!
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: JBTripper on September 14, 2018, 10:55:09 AM
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An administrative parking deviation is requested to reduce the off-street parking requirement from 26 spots to none. The Posting House LLC application says the landlord owns and controls 20 shared parking spaces on-site and there are 12 on-street parking spaces in front of the proposed business.

The Posting House LLC seeks a waiver of the minimum distance requirements from a church for a liquor license, an exception to sell beer and wine and the administrative deviation for parking.

Southside Baptist has been pretty reasonable about allowing beer and wine sales, and they have been pretty good about allowing neighboring business to use their parking lots. However, they have been openly hostile about allowing use of their parking lots by neighboring businesses that serve beer and wine. This will never happen.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on September 14, 2018, 11:44:07 AM
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An administrative parking deviation is requested to reduce the off-street parking requirement from 26 spots to none. The Posting House LLC application says the landlord owns and controls 20 shared parking spaces on-site and there are 12 on-street parking spaces in front of the proposed business.

The Posting House LLC seeks a waiver of the minimum distance requirements from a church for a liquor license, an exception to sell beer and wine and the administrative deviation for parking.

Southside Baptist has been pretty reasonable about allowing beer and wine sales, and they have been pretty good about allowing neighboring business to use their parking lots. However, they have been openly hostile about allowing use of their parking lots by neighboring businesses that serve beer and wine. This will never happen.

Well, what  do you want them to do, waste their time on trivial matters like addressing child predators?!?!
Bold Bean had some outdoor tables, for god's sake!
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: acme54321 on September 14, 2018, 01:06:20 PM
I'm suprised they aren't actively fighting the sex dungeon that they have across the street :o LOL
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: ProjectMaximus on September 14, 2018, 01:19:14 PM
However, they have been openly hostile about allowing use of their parking lots by neighboring businesses that serve beer and wine. This will never happen.

Sounds like they are concerned about drunk drivers. Perhaps they would be alright with an uber dropoff/pickup lane in their lot.  ;)
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: JBTripper on September 17, 2018, 04:47:51 PM
I'm suprised they aren't actively fighting the sex dungeon that they have across the street :o LOL

I honestly believe they have no idea about the bath house. Head in the sand.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Captain Zissou on September 18, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
I'm suprised they aren't actively fighting the sex dungeon that they have across the street :o LOL

I honestly believe they have no idea about the bath house. Head in the sand.

You can see the rooftop "sun deck" from inside the church and they have had some sticky situations with what has been seen.  The church is very aware that they are there.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: JBTripper on September 18, 2018, 02:40:26 PM
I'm suprised they aren't actively fighting the sex dungeon that they have across the street :o LOL

I honestly believe they have no idea about the bath house. Head in the sand.

You can see the rooftop "sun deck" from inside the church and they have had some sticky situations with what has been seen.  The church is very aware that they are there.

I cannot even imagine the degree to which pearls have been clutched in such circumstances.
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Post by: JPalmer on September 18, 2018, 02:46:08 PM
I've always wondered what could be seen from the 2nd story of Landon Middle, that seems way more problematic.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Tacachale on September 18, 2018, 03:17:39 PM
(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/think-of-the-children-gif-5.gif)
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on September 18, 2018, 03:24:15 PM
(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/think-of-the-children-gif-5.gif)

uh, don't we want the priests,pastors,etc to think about the children a little less often?
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: JBTripper on September 18, 2018, 04:07:07 PM
(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/think-of-the-children-gif-5.gif)

uh, don't we want the priests,pastors,etc to think about the children a little less often?

Baptist pastors are allowed to get married and have kids, so they don't generally have the same problems as those who report to the Vatican.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on September 18, 2018, 04:24:31 PM
(http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/think-of-the-children-gif-5.gif)

uh, don't we want the priests,pastors,etc to think about the children a little less often?

Baptist pastors are allowed to get married and have kids, so they don't generally have the same problems as those who report to the Vatican.

Perhaps it is not as prolific, but don't necessarily sell them short when it comes to those "problems".
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on September 18, 2018, 04:26:36 PM
Damn. Got to get off this tangent.

Can't wait for the Posting House. The first pint is on me, Jaxons!

Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Charles Hunter on September 18, 2018, 05:54:07 PM
Tell us when ...   :D
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on October 01, 2018, 08:53:16 AM
This is on the Oct 4 meeting agenda. I expect an easy approval considering it is replacing half of the old Layla/Mezze space.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: thelakelander on October 03, 2018, 07:06:19 AM
Here's the proposed plan: https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/english-themed-neighborhood-pub-planned-for-san-marco
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: fieldafm on October 03, 2018, 08:08:43 AM
Looking forward to checking this place out once it opens.

Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: acme54321 on October 03, 2018, 08:20:24 AM
Am I missing something?  How are they going to potentially fit 99 seats in that place?  I count 38 in that layout shown.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: fieldafm on October 03, 2018, 08:48:38 AM
Am I missing something?  How are they going to potentially fit 99 seats in that place?  I count 38 in that layout shown.

Since they need a few zoning exceptions (liquor distance waiver, parking deviation, sale/service, etc).. they are likely submitting a seating capacity of up to 99 seats to max out the space if they wanted to. The way the zoning code works, you ask for the max when you are paying someone to navigate your approvals, etc. You may get a reduced seating capacity as a condition of the exceptions... or you may only have 40 seats on a normal night... but if you host some big event and expect the bar to be jam packed with 75 drunk Englishmen yelling about the World Cup, you don't want to have some arbitrary seating cap limit your ability to make money... or go back and ask for another exception.

1,600 square feet with no kitchen space is actually a decent-sized shell for a fire marshal-approved seating capacity of 100 people.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: acme54321 on October 03, 2018, 10:36:12 AM
Yeah so no food?  Isn't half the point of a pub the food? 
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Adam White on October 03, 2018, 11:23:50 AM
Yeah so no food?  Isn't half the point of a pub the food?

Yeah, I saw that too and wondered the same thing. It's not really much of a 'pub' and more of a bar. That said, I guess a pub isn't strictly required to serve food - but really...what's the point?
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on October 03, 2018, 11:39:23 AM
There was a mention of "limited food options" but I thought the point of the pub was the pint.
And maybe some darts.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Captain Zissou on October 03, 2018, 01:09:32 PM
Yeah so no food?  Isn't half the point of a pub the food? 

Maybe they'll have crisps for you to snack on.  As someone who loved the O'bros and London Bridge fish and chips, this was a disappointment to me.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on October 05, 2018, 08:00:54 AM
Posting House approved. Yes!

They will also offer teas,kombucha, and coffee. Because I needed yet another walkable place to drink coffee. It really is all about me.
Title: Re: English Pub in San Marco? Dog's Bollocks!
Post by: Adam White on October 05, 2018, 08:20:32 AM
Posting House approved. Yes!

They will also offer teas,kombucha, and coffee. Because I needed yet another walkable place to drink coffee. It really is all about me.

Next up: doughnuts
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Post by: remc86007 on October 05, 2018, 11:38:51 AM
I WANT FISH AND CHIPS!
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Post by: BridgeTroll on October 07, 2018, 07:41:52 AM
Me too!  Does anyone have decent fish and chips???