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Title: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on July 17, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
We love our weekend getaways at One Ocean and hit Southern Grounds hard while we are there. The San Marco coffee options are getting out of control......and I think I like it!

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/photo-gallery/southern-grounds-coffee-shop-planning-move-into-san-marco
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: remc86007 on July 17, 2017, 10:40:29 AM
Maybe people will finally wake up and smell the (better) coffee and stop spending a not immaterial portion of their income on Starbucks?

Speaking of new coffee shops, has anyone tried Coniferous downtown on Monroe St across from the library?
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: ProjectMaximus on July 17, 2017, 12:54:46 PM
Awesome! I mean that very genuinely, but I guess that also means there's little hope for the coffee shop announced at the Laundry Station on San Marco Blvd almost a year ago. We've got Starbucks, Bold Bean, Good Dough Donuts, Panera and now this place all concentrated on the central/Eastern side of San Marco.
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Post by: thelakelander on July 17, 2017, 01:47:13 PM
I don't believe it will have a major impact. The San Marco Boulevard site is right down the street from all the major capital improvements and infill by Baptist Health.  Short of a bust in the economy, there should be enough people around to consume the extra caffeine.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: blfair on November 07, 2017, 11:17:03 AM
More today from the Daily Record:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/southern-grounds-making-tracks-to-san-marco
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: ben says on November 08, 2017, 09:30:05 AM
Maybe people will finally wake up and smell the (better) coffee and stop spending a not immaterial portion of their income on Starbucks?

Speaking of new coffee shops, has anyone tried Coniferous downtown on Monroe St across from the library?

I would always rather support local, but, just for example, Bold Bean's coffee, which I have found is representative of all "artisan" coffee or whatever the hell, is very acidic and bitter and just has a bad taste.  When it comes to straight coffee, and not those BS frou frou drinks, I'll take Starbucks every day.

You know absolutely nothing about coffee.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: lastdaysoffla on November 08, 2017, 09:52:20 PM
Artical about 'peak coffee'
 
http://www.grubstreet.com/2017/11/americas-third-wave-coffee-shops-are-losing-to-big-chains.html (http://www.grubstreet.com/2017/11/americas-third-wave-coffee-shops-are-losing-to-big-chains.html)
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Adam White on November 09, 2017, 04:55:21 AM
Maybe people will finally wake up and smell the (better) coffee and stop spending a not immaterial portion of their income on Starbucks?

Speaking of new coffee shops, has anyone tried Coniferous downtown on Monroe St across from the library?

I would always rather support local, but, just for example, Bold Bean's coffee, which I have found is representative of all "artisan" coffee or whatever the hell, is very acidic and bitter and just has a bad taste.  When it comes to straight coffee, and not those BS frou frou drinks, I'll take Starbucks every day.

You know absolutely nothing about coffee.

That's not fair.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: ProjectMaximus on November 09, 2017, 08:17:21 AM
Maybe people will finally wake up and smell the (better) coffee and stop spending a not immaterial portion of their income on Starbucks?

Speaking of new coffee shops, has anyone tried Coniferous downtown on Monroe St across from the library?

I would always rather support local, but, just for example, Bold Bean's coffee, which I have found is representative of all "artisan" coffee or whatever the hell, is very acidic and bitter and just has a bad taste.  When it comes to straight coffee, and not those BS frou frou drinks, I'll take Starbucks every day.

You know absolutely nothing about coffee.

That's not fair.

You know absolutely nothing about what's fair.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Snaketoz on November 09, 2017, 10:52:07 AM
Maybe people will finally wake up and smell the (better) coffee and stop spending a not immaterial portion of their income on Starbucks?

Speaking of new coffee shops, has anyone tried Coniferous downtown on Monroe St across from the library?

I would always rather support local, but, just for example, Bold Bean's coffee, which I have found is representative of all "artisan" coffee or whatever the hell, is very acidic and bitter and just has a bad taste.  When it comes to straight coffee, and not those BS frou frou drinks, I'll take Starbucks every day.

You know absolutely nothing about coffee.

Damn. Sick burn right there.

Actually I know what tastes good and what I like.  And if that sets me apart from the dorkuses who take coffee super seriously, then that's a plus in my book.
Drinking coffee that is outrageously expensive just because it's hip, is really lame.  Drink what you like and let the wannabes blow their bread on all the b/s frou frou concoctions.  I judge coffee for the taste of the coffee, not some swill with mint, mocha, pumpkin spice, whipped cream, peppermint, cinnamon, honey swirl, Shirley Temple bubblegum crap in it.  People who like that kind of coffee, know absolutely nothing about coffee.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: remc86007 on November 09, 2017, 11:09:12 AM
Maybe people will finally wake up and smell the (better) coffee and stop spending a not immaterial portion of their income on Starbucks?

Speaking of new coffee shops, has anyone tried Coniferous downtown on Monroe St across from the library?

I would always rather support local, but, just for example, Bold Bean's coffee, which I have found is representative of all "artisan" coffee or whatever the hell, is very acidic and bitter and just has a bad taste.  When it comes to straight coffee, and not those BS frou frou drinks, I'll take Starbucks every day.

I've found Bold Bean (which I happen to like despite the bitterness) to be the exception, not the rule. I would bet that controlling for mere-exposure bias, in a double-blind test, most people would prefer the black coffee served at local shops to Pike Place or whatever Starbucks serves now.

I remember laughing when I read this a decade ago: https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/a-bitter-shot-for-starbucks-mcdonalds-wins-taste-test/ and I agree with the review of Starbucks coffee: "Strong, but burnt and bitter enough to make your eyes water instead of open”

Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Adam White on November 09, 2017, 11:57:59 AM
Maybe people will finally wake up and smell the (better) coffee and stop spending a not immaterial portion of their income on Starbucks?

Speaking of new coffee shops, has anyone tried Coniferous downtown on Monroe St across from the library?

I would always rather support local, but, just for example, Bold Bean's coffee, which I have found is representative of all "artisan" coffee or whatever the hell, is very acidic and bitter and just has a bad taste.  When it comes to straight coffee, and not those BS frou frou drinks, I'll take Starbucks every day.

You know absolutely nothing about coffee.

That's not fair.

You know absolutely nothing about what's fair.

Damn. Sick burn right there.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on May 08, 2018, 11:03:16 AM
SG appears to be getting close. Building is coming along nicely and they have announced they are hiring. This should be a great addition to the neighborhood.

But could we have some density with our coffee, please?
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on June 26, 2018, 11:50:31 AM
SG is officially open as of yesterday. I went today at what I thought was an off time and it was very busy. Clearly off to a nice start. I look forward to the live music as there are not many options in the neighborhood.

As a 'Patron' when staying at the beach, I couldn't be happier they are now within walking distance.

Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Captain Zissou on June 26, 2018, 12:31:48 PM
I went yesterday and was very pleased with the space and food.  Girl running the register was pretty clueless, but I think i was her third customer ever.  She'll get the hang of it.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: timjax9 on June 27, 2018, 10:01:30 AM
Like the place but they will have real issues due to super tight parking spaces. You almost have to back into the building to turn around. Also anyone approaching from San Marco must drive past a median that blocks a left turn into their lot, cross the railroad tracks and make a U turn to access the lot. Hope they can get some help from the city to reconfigure the median.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: bl8jaxnative on January 19, 2019, 11:01:15 AM
great place.  I hope a few more like it pop up on that Atlantic corridor, especially with all those new residential unts coming into the market with that dev on the north end of philips.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on April 17, 2019, 12:19:47 PM
We went last night and was surprised how busy it was for a Tuesday night. We have added SG to our "evening destinations" for a nice cheaper option.(plus I was a breakfast all day guy waaaaaaaay ahead of the curve). We especially like bringing our dog to the back patio area.

We have so many great eat/drink options to walk to now, we are struggling to determine how often to go to places as we try to maintain our "elite regular status" at our various favorites. Nice problem to have. Sorry if I broke from the "it sucks to live here" trend.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sandyshoes on April 17, 2019, 05:20:23 PM
 ???  wow...some folks seem to have already reached critical mass on their caffeine intake, given the recent barbs.  Time for a nice, clear gallon of water to dilute all that vitriol?  (I hoped it was all in fun, but....)
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: MusicMan on April 20, 2019, 10:54:48 AM
""We have so many great eat/drink options to walk to now, we are struggling to determine how often to go to places as we try to maintain our "elite regular status" at our various favorites. Nice problem to have. Sorry if I broke from the "it sucks to live here" trend.""

Agree SMM. If only Regency had built condos and the Publix they would have sold out and gotten great prices. Pretty sure, had they stuck to any of their plans, it would have been complete by now....

By the way, had dinner at Bistro Aix last night. The entrees were superb. The crispy chips were ok. It's one of my fav's and half of the chips were limp, not crispy.  Our entrees were short rib, pan seared salmon, and the onglet with fries and haricot vert.  All outstanding.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: thelakelander on April 20, 2019, 11:19:25 AM
Regency doesn't build condos. That was a different development group that backed out. Anyway, don't worry, your Publix will eventually come.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: MusicMan on April 20, 2019, 04:41:55 PM
Yes, when market conditions improve.....

Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: thelakelander on April 20, 2019, 06:06:19 PM
No, market conditions are already fine for Publix.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Captain Zissou on April 22, 2019, 08:12:19 AM
Yes, when market conditions improve.....

This is now the second time I've told you; Regency is a publicly traded company.  All the information about this project is publicly available via earnings calls or other presentations.  You can educate yourself on the project quite easily with a simple google search, but you'd rather just gripe and moan. 
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: MusicMan on April 22, 2019, 09:20:26 PM
"Yes, when market conditions improve....."

Since you're a fan of Bill Murray I'll spell it out for you:

I-t w-a-s a j-o-k-e!

"Lighten up Francis..."
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on April 22, 2019, 09:42:09 PM
""We have so many great eat/drink options to walk to now, we are struggling to determine how often to go to places as we try to maintain our "elite regular status" at our various favorites. Nice problem to have. Sorry if I broke from the "it sucks to live here" trend.""

Agree SMM. If only Regency had built condos and the Publix they would have sold out and gotten great prices. Pretty sure, had they stuck to any of their plans, it would have been complete by now....

By the way, had dinner at Bistro Aix last night. The entrees were superb. The crispy chips were ok. It's one of my fav's and half of the chips were limp, not crispy.  Our entrees were short rib, pan seared salmon, and the onglet with fries and haricot vert.  All outstanding.


Assuming the Publix gets built,I would love to see something like Harbor View in DT Fernandina built on the remaining parcel. We will be staying up there this weekend and I hope to see some progress on those townhomes.

And we really like Bistro Aix(we like the bar area for the live music)but it isn't walkable for us so it tends to be pretty low on our list during this time of year. However, once the hot weather hits, we will be hitting it more often since you pretty much have to drive everywhere once its 90's and humid :) Maybe the buggies will change that, though!
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: MusicMan on April 23, 2019, 09:22:33 AM
Matt do you go to Southern Grounds? It's replaced Pizza Palace as the 3 family Sunday night gathering spot (with friends).
My 'go to' is the : Baja Ancient Grain Bowl, Cilantro Lime Rice topped with Black Bean, Corn Salsa, House Made Salsa Verde, Pico de Gallo, Fresh Haas Avocado and Sour Cream. (Add Chicken or Salmon)

With blackened Salmon. Guilt free and tasty. And the wine prices (by the bottle) are really fair.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on April 23, 2019, 09:39:56 AM
Matt do you go to Southern Grounds?

That's like asking me if I ever invested in the stock market. Is water wet?

Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Ken_FSU on April 23, 2019, 10:41:18 AM
I miss the Urban Grind in the BOA Tower.

Been closed for a few months now after the sweet woman that ran it left.

Supposedly a temporary closure until they kind someone to staff it.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on May 16, 2019, 08:45:10 AM
Little things that make me happy: Last night we go to SG and it was much busier than Starbucks when we walked by on the way home. And I am happy even if it hurts my SBUX stock.

 I know...I know....my generosity....my values. Sometimes I get a little teary just thinking about it.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: MusicMan on May 16, 2019, 11:02:57 PM
SBUX doing fine. Stock at all time high I think...
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Post by: sanmarcomatt on May 17, 2019, 08:50:21 AM
SBUX doing fine. Stock at all time high I think...

You are correct sir!(well, just off the highs now). Some buy the product...others buy the stock instead. I love sheeple.It would be especially gratifying if they were actually sitting in a Starbucks sipping a latte while crying online about wealth disparity.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: JaxAvondale on July 12, 2019, 07:10:07 PM
Southern Grounds is coming to Avondale. A much needed coffee spot for Avondale.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: thelakelander on July 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Cool, where is it opening in Avondale?
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Post by: JaxAvondale on July 12, 2019, 11:04:21 PM
According to RAP...

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A property owner is planning to bring Southern Grounds and two retail shops to the Shoppes of Avondale.  The owner is seeking a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to build a new storefront building for the restaurant and retailers, which would mean demolishing the existing non-contributing structure (meaning not historically significant or protected).  The owner said they will also seek an Administrative Deviation (AD)  for 26 parking spaces (not giving owner credit for “vested” on-street parking and 4 employee spaces being created at the rear of building), which would serve the new 8,700 square foot building.  Southern Grounds coffee shop plans to have 187 seats, operate from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. each day, and serve beer and wine but no liquor. 
 

It appears to be the store fronts next to old Florida Creamery.
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Post by: Charles Hunter on July 12, 2019, 11:09:43 PM
For those of us who don't know Avondale all that well, can you share an address?
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Post by: JaxAvondale on July 13, 2019, 12:30:32 AM
3562 St. Johns Ave
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Post by: Charles Hunter on July 13, 2019, 10:29:21 AM
Thanks, good spot!
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Post by: Jagsdrew on July 15, 2019, 02:01:06 PM
JDR Article:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/southern-grounds-is-brewing-plans-to-open-in-avondale (https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/southern-grounds-is-brewing-plans-to-open-in-avondale)
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Post by: acme54321 on July 15, 2019, 02:19:21 PM
The rendering shown int hat article look spretty cool.
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Post by: Steve on July 15, 2019, 05:07:50 PM
According to RAP...

Quote
A property owner is planning to bring Southern Grounds and two retail shops to the Shoppes of Avondale.  The owner is seeking a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to build a new storefront building for the restaurant and retailers, which would mean demolishing the existing non-contributing structure (meaning not historically significant or protected).  The owner said they will also seek an Administrative Deviation (AD)  for 26 parking spaces (not giving owner credit for “vested” on-street parking and 4 employee spaces being created at the rear of building), which would serve the new 8,700 square foot building.  Southern Grounds coffee shop plans to have 187 seats, operate from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. each day, and serve beer and wine but no liquor. 
 

It appears to be the store fronts next to old Florida Creamery.

Additionally, RAP's only ask related to the demolition is that a Certificate of Appropriateness be completed on the new building prior to the Demo permit being issued, and "....adequate accommodation for adjacent retailers and pedestrians during construction" (which likely means maintaining a pedestrian path). I think that's a model that should be done throughout the urban core.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sandyshoes on July 16, 2019, 08:47:41 AM
What?? You dare to tire of The Fox's finest dishwater swill that they swear IS coffee?  You hooligans! 
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: JaxAvondale on August 23, 2019, 12:46:50 PM
Anybody know how the meeting with today?
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Post by: sanmarcomatt on November 13, 2019, 08:39:45 AM
I continue to be amazed about how busy SG is in the evening considering the variety of options in the area although Bold Bean closing at 7 must help. They are going to kill it in Avondale.
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Post by: Captain Zissou on November 13, 2019, 09:23:05 AM
^Last night was crazy.  I drove by at about 7:30 and it looked like it was a packed house.  I'm so glad they're successful. 

I will say that for the past couple weeks they definitely have received a boost from the Beach Diner fire.  I was headed to SG to get some breakfast the sunday after the fire and it looked packed so I went to BD instead.  After seeing the fire damage I headed back to SG to stand in line for 5 minutes.  While waiting, I saw 2 different couples I had also seen at BD.  San Marco folks love their breakfast!
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Post by: MusicMan on November 13, 2019, 02:40:04 PM
Their ancient grains bowl with blackened salmon is one of my favorites.
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Post by: Captain Zissou on November 13, 2019, 03:37:49 PM
Their ancient grains bowl with blackened salmon is one of my favorites.

We know....

My 'go to' is the : Baja Ancient Grain Bowl, Cilantro Lime Rice topped with Black Bean, Corn Salsa, House Made Salsa Verde, Pico de Gallo, Fresh Haas Avocado and Sour Cream. With blackened Salmon.
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Post by: Jagsdrew on November 13, 2019, 11:08:10 PM
Missed those San Marco spots that I can walk to. But on a positive, I’m now a resident of the Beauclerc neighborhood where my wife and I are probably the youngest couple in our neighborhood.

We are surrounded by old retired folks, empty nesters in a heavily Jewish area which our neighbor Ms. Weinstein said she’ll make some homemade challah bread in December for us. Delightful.

We tried like hell to find a spot in San Marco but the houses around where we wanted to live just didn’t pan out or fall within our price range of 2-5 million. Insert sarcasm.

Keep holding it down in SM, SanMarcoMatt and I’ll going forward provide some juicy news in the San Jose corridor while I eat a steak and lobster meal from the most authentic Australian restaurant, Outback Steakhouse.
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Post by: sanmarcomatt on November 14, 2019, 07:38:40 AM
Missed those San Marco spots that I can walk to. But on a positive, I’m now a resident of the Beauclerc neighborhood where my wife and I are probably the youngest couple in our neighborhood.

We are surrounded by old retired folks, empty nesters in a heavily Jewish area which our neighbor Ms. Weinstein said she’ll make some homemade challah bread in December for us. Delightful.

We tried like hell to find a spot in San Marco but the houses around where we wanted to live just didn’t pan out or fall within our price range of 2-5 million. Insert sarcasm.

Keep holding it down in SM, SanMarcoMatt and I’ll going forward provide some juicy news in the San Jose corridor while I eat a steak and lobster meal from the most authentic Australian restaurant, Outback Steakhouse.

Wtf? Does every poster on this site move to the suburbs?!? Is this Jaxon flight?

But congrats on the house and I will miss not realizing I was probably sitting next to you at Matthew’s bar:)

Note, we were in the same boat on the age thing when we moved here. But it has really flipped( with flips having multiple meaning)the last few years.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Steve on November 14, 2019, 09:12:22 AM
Missed those San Marco spots that I can walk to. But on a positive, I’m now a resident of the Beauclerc neighborhood where my wife and I are probably the youngest couple in our neighborhood.

We are surrounded by old retired folks, empty nesters in a heavily Jewish area which our neighbor Ms. Weinstein said she’ll make some homemade challah bread in December for us. Delightful.

We tried like hell to find a spot in San Marco but the houses around where we wanted to live just didn’t pan out or fall within our price range of 2-5 million. Insert sarcasm.

Keep holding it down in SM, SanMarcoMatt and I’ll going forward provide some juicy news in the San Jose corridor while I eat a steak and lobster meal from the most authentic Australian restaurant, Outback Steakhouse.

Wtf? Does every poster on this site move to the suburbs?!? Is this Jaxon flight?

But congrats on the house and I will miss not realizing I was probably sitting next to you at Matthew’s bar:)

Note, we were in the same boat on the age thing when we moved here. But it has really flipped( with flips having multiple meaning)the last few years.

Haha - I did move from Riverside to San Jose so I get it. Now, I'm glad for the fact that I can be downtown in under 15 minutes.

Hey, twin toddlers and cheap Square Footage (compared to San Marco) has it's advantages.
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Post by: sanmarcomatt on November 14, 2019, 09:28:33 AM
Missed those San Marco spots that I can walk to. But on a positive, I’m now a resident of the Beauclerc neighborhood where my wife and I are probably the youngest couple in our neighborhood.

We are surrounded by old retired folks, empty nesters in a heavily Jewish area which our neighbor Ms. Weinstein said she’ll make some homemade challah bread in December for us. Delightful.

We tried like hell to find a spot in San Marco but the houses around where we wanted to live just didn’t pan out or fall within our price range of 2-5 million. Insert sarcasm.

Keep holding it down in SM, SanMarcoMatt and I’ll going forward provide some juicy news in the San Jose corridor while I eat a steak and lobster meal from the most authentic Australian restaurant, Outback Steakhouse.

Wtf? Does every poster on this site move to the suburbs?!? Is this Jaxon flight?

But congrats on the house and I will miss not realizing I was probably sitting next to you at Matthew’s bar:)

Note, we were in the same boat on the age thing when we moved here. But it has really flipped( with flips having multiple meaning)the last few years.

Haha - I did move from Riverside to San Jose so I get it. Now, I'm glad for the fact that I can be downtown in under 15 minutes.

Hey, twin toddlers and cheap Square Footage (compared to San Marco) has it's advantages.

I know...I was just joking. I absolutely get it. Just makes me think of all the articles by experts where all the brilliant successful people were going to be raising their kids in downtowns across America.
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Post by: Jagsdrew on November 14, 2019, 12:44:53 PM
Missed those San Marco spots that I can walk to. But on a positive, I’m now a resident of the Beauclerc neighborhood where my wife and I are probably the youngest couple in our neighborhood.

We are surrounded by old retired folks, empty nesters in a heavily Jewish area which our neighbor Ms. Weinstein said she’ll make some homemade challah bread in December for us. Delightful.

We tried like hell to find a spot in San Marco but the houses around where we wanted to live just didn’t pan out or fall within our price range of 2-5 million. Insert sarcasm.

Keep holding it down in SM, SanMarcoMatt and I’ll going forward provide some juicy news in the San Jose corridor while I eat a steak and lobster meal from the most authentic Australian restaurant, Outback Steakhouse.

Wtf? Does every poster on this site move to the suburbs?!? Is this Jaxon flight?

But congrats on the house and I will miss not realizing I was probably sitting next to you at Matthew’s bar:)

Note, we were in the same boat on the age thing when we moved here. But it has really flipped( with flips having multiple meaning)the last few years.

I'll be back for sure. And heck, I would call this a true Jaxon flight, I'm still in the city so i'm no Nocatee or St Johns Co.
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Post by: thelakelander on November 14, 2019, 01:18:52 PM
Missed those San Marco spots that I can walk to. But on a positive, I’m now a resident of the Beauclerc neighborhood where my wife and I are probably the youngest couple in our neighborhood.

We are surrounded by old retired folks, empty nesters in a heavily Jewish area which our neighbor Ms. Weinstein said she’ll make some homemade challah bread in December for us. Delightful.

We tried like hell to find a spot in San Marco but the houses around where we wanted to live just didn’t pan out or fall within our price range of 2-5 million. Insert sarcasm.

Keep holding it down in SM, SanMarcoMatt and I’ll going forward provide some juicy news in the San Jose corridor while I eat a steak and lobster meal from the most authentic Australian restaurant, Outback Steakhouse.

Wtf? Does every poster on this site move to the suburbs?!? Is this Jaxon flight?

But congrats on the house and I will miss not realizing I was probably sitting next to you at Matthew’s bar:)

Note, we were in the same boat on the age thing when we moved here. But it has really flipped( with flips having multiple meaning)the last few years.

Haha - I did move from Riverside to San Jose so I get it. Now, I'm glad for the fact that I can be downtown in under 15 minutes.

Hey, twin toddlers and cheap Square Footage (compared to San Marco) has it's advantages.

I know...I was just joking. I absolutely get it. Just makes me think of all the articles by experts where all the brilliant successful people were going to be raising their kids in downtowns across America.
I think many people assumed "downtowns" when those articles said many people were moving back to cities. In reality people are repopulating these dense urban districts across the country. Many of these city neighborhoods where people are moving to, aren't the central business district but are denser than Riverside, Springfield and San Marco combined. Jax is just slow to the party, partially because the core is still pretty limited in housing variety and amenities commonly associated with urban living.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on November 14, 2019, 01:48:52 PM
Please do not make assumptions on what I “assumed” . Thanks.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: thelakelander on November 14, 2019, 01:54:01 PM
Ouch lol. Please re-read the statement. I wasn't thinking anything about a sanmarcomatt when I wrote that.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on November 14, 2019, 02:21:11 PM
Ouch lol. Please re-read the statement. I wasn't thinking anything about a sanmarcomatt when I wrote that.

I thought you were lumping me in with people who assumed a reference was to downtown when a reference was just to moving back to cities. Your response was to my comment and it seemed a little “educational” so I guess I just made a bad assumption. :)
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: ProjectMaximus on November 14, 2019, 02:28:31 PM
Missed those San Marco spots that I can walk to. But on a positive, I’m now a resident of the Beauclerc neighborhood where my wife and I are probably the youngest couple in our neighborhood.

We are surrounded by old retired folks, empty nesters in a heavily Jewish area which our neighbor Ms. Weinstein said she’ll make some homemade challah bread in December for us. Delightful.

We tried like hell to find a spot in San Marco but the houses around where we wanted to live just didn’t pan out or fall within our price range of 2-5 million. Insert sarcasm.

Keep holding it down in SM, SanMarcoMatt and I’ll going forward provide some juicy news in the San Jose corridor while I eat a steak and lobster meal from the most authentic Australian restaurant, Outback Steakhouse.

Wtf? Does every poster on this site move to the suburbs?!? Is this Jaxon flight?

But congrats on the house and I will miss not realizing I was probably sitting next to you at Matthew’s bar:)

Note, we were in the same boat on the age thing when we moved here. But it has really flipped( with flips having multiple meaning)the last few years.

Haha - I did move from Riverside to San Jose so I get it. Now, I'm glad for the fact that I can be downtown in under 15 minutes.

Hey, twin toddlers and cheap Square Footage (compared to San Marco) has it's advantages.

I know...I was just joking. I absolutely get it. Just makes me think of all the articles by experts where all the brilliant successful people were going to be raising their kids in downtowns across America.

Ugh I never thought about this but I guess technically we did the same San Marco -> burbs move with kids. But ours was just obscured by the fact that it was 350 miles south. If we ever return to Jax I "guarantee" it will be back to the urban core, dagnabbit.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Tacachale on November 14, 2019, 02:59:28 PM
I grew up in the suburbs (Neptune Beach) and moved to the urban core as an adult. I don't see us living in the burbs again as long as we're in Jax and fortunes don't change dramatically. For me, it provides the things I liked about living at the beach (a real neighborhood feel, stuff to do in walking or biking distance, etc.) without the things I didn't like (overpriced property, being so far away, etc.)
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on November 14, 2019, 04:41:28 PM
I don't see us living in the burbs again as long as we're in Jax

You couldn’t handle Jax burbs anyway. You would get overwhelmed with notices from the Lawn Nazis.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: thelakelander on November 14, 2019, 04:43:42 PM
Ouch lol. Please re-read the statement. I wasn't thinking anything about a sanmarcomatt when I wrote that.

I thought you were lumping me in with people who assumed a reference was to downtown when a reference was just to moving back to cities. Your response was to my comment and it seemed a little “educational” so I guess I just made a bad assumption. :)
No worries. My comment was more of a personal rant about the experts producing those articles.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Tacachale on November 14, 2019, 04:50:52 PM
I don't see us living in the burbs again as long as we're in Jax

You couldn’t handle Jax burbs anyway. You would get overwhelmed with notices from the Lawn Nazis.

Lol, we definitely would. I actually got a notice from code enforcement recently over the height of some of my grass. I broke down and paid someone to mow it. I can only imagine what would happen in the burbs.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on November 14, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
I don't see us living in the burbs again as long as we're in Jax

You couldn’t handle Jax burbs anyway. You would get overwhelmed with notices from the Lawn Nazis.

Lol, we definitely would. I actually got a notice from code enforcement recently over the height of some of my grass. I broke down and paid someone to mow it. I can only imagine what would happen in the burbs.

That is ridiculous. I love how commercial property owners can pretty much do whatever they want  but residential gets targeted. Ah, our tax dollars at work.

I don’t believe in cultivating a grass crop. I have “xeriscapish”in the front and artificial turf for the dogs in the back. life is good.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Tacachale on November 14, 2019, 05:02:20 PM
I don't see us living in the burbs again as long as we're in Jax

You couldn’t handle Jax burbs anyway. You would get overwhelmed with notices from the Lawn Nazis.

Lol, we definitely would. I actually got a notice from code enforcement recently over the height of some of my grass. I broke down and paid someone to mow it. I can only imagine what would happen in the burbs.

That is ridiculous. I love how commercial property owners can pretty much do whatever they want  but residential gets targeted. Ah, our tax dollars at work.

I don’t believe in cultivating a grass crop. I have “xeriscapish”in the front and artificial turf for the dogs in the back. life is good.

We're planning something similar, which is why I stopped bothering with the grass until the city made me. We're looking to convert the front into raised beds and native ground cover. I'm sick of expending a good deal of labor, money, or both on a plant that you can't eat or use for anything.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: thelakelander on November 14, 2019, 05:08:02 PM
I don't see us living in the burbs again as long as we're in Jax

You couldn’t handle Jax burbs anyway. You would get overwhelmed with notices from the Lawn Nazis.

Lol, we definitely would. I actually got a notice from code enforcement recently over the height of some of my grass. I broke down and paid someone to mow it. I can only imagine what would happen in the burbs.
You'd not only be forced to cut that yard, you'd also be harassed to pressure wash your driveway and the sidewalk in front of it!
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Tacachale on November 14, 2019, 05:31:43 PM
I don't see us living in the burbs again as long as we're in Jax

You couldn’t handle Jax burbs anyway. You would get overwhelmed with notices from the Lawn Nazis.

Lol, we definitely would. I actually got a notice from code enforcement recently over the height of some of my grass. I broke down and paid someone to mow it. I can only imagine what would happen in the burbs.
You'd not only be forced to cut that yard, you'd also be harassed to pressure wash your driveway and the sidewalk in front of it!

Yeah, no way am I ever doing that. Wasting water on grass is bad enough, but concrete? GTFO.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: MusicMan on November 14, 2019, 06:51:39 PM
"I don’t believe in cultivating a grass crop."   No indoor grow room either, huh?
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Tacachale on November 14, 2019, 08:24:45 PM
"I don’t believe in cultivating a grass crop."   No indoor grow room either, huh?

 ;D
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: ProjectMaximus on November 14, 2019, 08:33:38 PM
That is ridiculous. I love how commercial property owners can pretty much do whatever they want  but residential gets targeted. Ah, our tax dollars at work.

It was most likely instigated by a neighbor complaint, fyi. Unlike the HOA management nazis that actually drive around each day to check on the houses.

"I don’t believe in cultivating a grass crop."   No indoor grow room either, huh?

We all know SMM gets only the best imports from Mendocino.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: sanmarcomatt on November 14, 2019, 08:36:53 PM
Sorry everyone, I get high on a different kind of green.

Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: acme54321 on November 14, 2019, 09:10:00 PM
COJ code enforcement on stuff like tall lawns is totally complaint driven.
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Bativac on November 14, 2019, 09:27:30 PM
That is ridiculous. I love how commercial property owners can pretty much do whatever they want  but residential gets targeted. Ah, our tax dollars at work.

It was most likely instigated by a neighbor complaint, fyi. Unlike the HOA management nazis that actually drive around each day to check on the houses.

Not to be "That guy" but I have totally been "That guy." We bought a house on a St Nicholas street that was kind of on the verge of either improving or, uh, not. At some point, the across the street folks had knee high grass and a stick-built wheelchair ramp... the next door neighbors, knee high grass and broken shutters... and the other neighbor, weeds as far as the eye can see. When you've talked to the neighbors and they continue to refuse to maintain their property.... it brings the whole area down. I was mowing 4 lawns before finally hitting my breaking point.

(For the record we sold the house at a 30% profit...and the street took a definite downturn. Only difference is now nobody is calling the city.)
Title: Re: Southern Grounds coming...have we hit Peak coffee yet!?!
Post by: Tacachale on November 14, 2019, 10:43:29 PM
in this case no one spoke to me once about the lawn until the city showed up. Can’t wait to hear their opinion by proxy of the garden that’ll be replacing the grass.