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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => The Burbs => Southside => Topic started by: Houseboat Mike on February 11, 2016, 09:17:48 AM

Title: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: Houseboat Mike on February 11, 2016, 09:17:48 AM
Anyone know why a bridge connecting University and 103rd/Timiquana was never built? It would seem that it would be a logical connection point, and would alleviate traffic not only DT but on the Buckman.
Title: Re: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: Captain Zissou on February 11, 2016, 09:43:44 AM
Pretty sure the well to do folks in Ortega and San Marco put the kibosh on that.
Title: Re: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: Steve on February 11, 2016, 09:54:19 AM
^Exactly-housing on both sides. There was also briefly a proposal to connect JTB to Timucuana, but that was killed for the same reason.
Title: Re: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: camarocane on February 11, 2016, 10:43:42 AM
There was also talk of connecting Ft. Caroline to Tallyrand/Wigmore at one point. Anyone know what happened to that plan?
Title: Re: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: thelakelander on February 11, 2016, 10:45:27 AM
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The Timuquana Bridge was a proposed bridge over the St. Johns River in Jacksonville, Florida that was never built. The bridge was planned to connect with State Road 134 (103rd Street/Timuquana Road) on the west shore of the St. Johns with State Road 202 (Butler Boulevard) on the east shore.

The Timuquana was proposed because there is no other bridge crossing the eight-mile stretch of the St. Johns River between the Buckman Bridge and the Fuller Warren Bridge, and residents of the Westside wanting to go to the Southside need to travel many miles out of their way to cross the river. However, construction of the Timuquana would require the destruction of a great many houses on both sides of the river, including homes in some very exclusive neighborhoods along the west bank of the St. Johns. Accordingly, there was little to no political support for the idea from the start.

Full article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timuquana_Bridge
Title: Re: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: FlaBoy on February 11, 2016, 11:00:50 AM
We have enough bridges and enough road projects to finish.

How do people on here feel about the Hart Expressway being finished to 295 one day to alleviate traffic on 95 or the Matthews? Beach is already a sprawled to the max road up to this point.
Title: Re: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: thelakelander on February 11, 2016, 11:37:26 AM
I'm for alleviating traffic or at least providing mobility options by investing more in alternative modes. It's cheaper financially, better for the environment and less destructive on our built environment.
Title: Re: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: Charles Hunter on February 11, 2016, 12:57:27 PM
As I recall, the Ft. Caroline / 20th Street Bridge died, in part due to the need to  keep the support piers out of the river so as not to impede the turning basin for the Talleyrand port. If it could be done, the cost was too much for the old Expressway Authority  (now JTA).

And you are right about the Timuquana bridge, the wealth and influence of the Ortega and San Jose neighborhoods killed it. Had they been poor areas ...
Title: Re: Bridge connecting University and 103rd?
Post by: Steve on February 11, 2016, 12:59:59 PM
As I recall, the Ft. Caroline / 20th Street Bridge died, in part due to the need to  keep the support piers out of the river so as not to impede the turning basin for the Talleyrand port. If it could be done, the cost was too much for the old Expressway Authority  (now JTA).

And you are right about the Timuquana bridge, the wealth and influence of the Ortega and San Jose neighborhoods killed it. Had they been poor areas ...

A tunnel could have worked for the Talleyrand one, but might have been cost prohibitive.