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Jacksonville by Neighborhood => The Burbs => Southside => Topic started by: thelakelander on April 22, 2008, 01:12:27 AM

Title: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: thelakelander on April 22, 2008, 01:12:27 AM
Who says, the urban core is the only area affected?

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A one-bedroom at the Esplanade in fall of 2006 sold for $194,300, according to Duval County Property Appraiser records.

Bidding at the auction next month will begin at $95,000.

full article: http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/042208/bus_270693365.shtml
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: Steve on April 22, 2008, 01:17:28 AM
This is great:

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The location is Jacksonville's example of "new urbanism," where shopping, restaurants, offices and homes converge for a walkable community.

Isn't it interesting how Jacksonville's examples of things don't usually match the rest of the world's "examples"
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: rjp2008 on July 03, 2008, 10:37:15 AM
The Esplanade is really a great design - Mediterranean style and all - however, they stuck in the back of SJTC! Who wants to walk out of their complex and look at the back of storefronts! Very poor lot design - the community should have been placed somewhere in the middle, around a lake, with green everywhere.
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: thelakelander on July 03, 2008, 10:48:46 AM
Very poor lot design - the community should have been placed somewhere in the middle, around a lake, with green everywhere.

or on top of the retail.  The same goes for the townhouse development behind Target.
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: copperfiend on July 03, 2008, 10:55:29 AM
The townhomes are terrible. They look tacky and are fenced off from the rest of the Town Center. Another example of what not to do.
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: Doctor_K on July 03, 2008, 10:58:22 AM
Very poor lot design - the community should have been placed somewhere in the middle, around a lake, with green everywhere.
or on top of the retail.

Stacking residential on top of the retail would've been brilliant, and would have more than likely enhanced the whole 'town center' feel of it.  It might've made the retail parking situation a little more difficult, though.  Oh wait, they could've erected parking decks!!  But no0o0o!

The townhomes are terrible. They look tacky and are fenced off from the rest of the Town Center. Another example of what not to do.
In theory I agree with the 'what not to do' part, as it relates to walkability and being cut off from the rest of the development.  But I sure as heck love mine! :-)
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: JaxNole on July 03, 2008, 11:08:37 AM
The townhomes are terrible. They look tacky and are fenced off from the rest of the Town Center. Another example of what not to do.
I agree.  I walked through more than 50 units when I was with my former company. 

Examples of substandard findings:
Paint that would chip after taping a directional sign for five minutes
Sink that fell through the countertop
Carpet seams that would become visible after light traffic
Long, dimly-lit corridors leading to units
Fixtures that, well, were un-affixed and found in various  places, such as the kitchen and bathroom floors
Loose balcony and stairwell banisters/railings

These were overpriced from the moment pre-sales began, but the developer believed the product was worth more than listing prices and would only budge upwards on price points.
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: rjp2008 on July 03, 2008, 12:08:42 PM
Well this is what you get when you sell land to mall development companies from Atlanta and Indiana - a place that looks like a midwestern mall, instead of lush, exotic, draw tourists Florida.

However.......(speaking in hushed voice) Skinner still owns the land across the street (town center parkway), which sits on a HUGE created lake, with a sunset exposure no less...
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: Basstacular on July 03, 2008, 12:22:59 PM
There were / are major mold issues at Esplande.  My GF had to be put up in a hotel for five weeks for repairs.
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: Eazy E on July 03, 2008, 12:29:44 PM
The Esplanade is really a great design - Mediterranean style and all - however, they stuck in the back of SJTC! Who wants to walk out of their complex and look at the back of storefronts! Very poor lot design - the community should have been placed somewhere in the middle, around a lake, with green everywhere.

Who wants to walk out of their complex and realize they're surrounded by the monstrosity that is the SJTC? I don't care if it's front, back, or middle, it still sucks, and makes one believe that the only "recreation" we in Jacksonville are capable of is consumption.
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: thelakelander on July 03, 2008, 12:35:45 PM
There were / are major mold issues at Esplande.  My GF had to be put up in a hotel for five weeks for repairs.

I know a girl who owned a unit that had mold issues as well.  The Folio ran a story about The Esplanade sometime last year.
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: copperfiend on July 03, 2008, 01:24:45 PM
The Esplanade is really a great design - Mediterranean style and all - however, they stuck in the back of SJTC! Who wants to walk out of their complex and look at the back of storefronts! Very poor lot design - the community should have been placed somewhere in the middle, around a lake, with green everywhere.

Who wants to walk out of their complex and realize they're surrounded by the monstrosity that is the SJTC? I don't care if it's front, back, or middle, it still sucks, and makes one believe that the only "recreation" we in Jacksonville are capable of is consumption.

I don't think that is entirely true. I actually think that a number of people at the SJTC aren't even from Jacksonville.
Title: Re: SJTC condo development auctioning off units at bargain basement prices
Post by: nicktooch on September 24, 2008, 05:10:47 PM
i pass condo this everyday on my way to work; the sign says 2 left!