http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/population/cb13-94.html (http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/population/cb13-94.html)
Columbus, Fort Worth and Charlotte are closing in fast.
http://factfinder2.census.gov/bkmk/table/1.0/en/PEP/2012/PEPANNRSIP.US12A (http://factfinder2.census.gov/bkmk/table/1.0/en/PEP/2012/PEPANNRSIP.US12A)
Apparently SF has even added 50% more people than Jacksonville since the 2010 Census, and considering it's basically the first time the city has allowed significant new construction in decades I believe it.
Actually, when you look at all the major cities in the top 30 or 40, Indy and Jax adding 14,000 apiece are ahead of only Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Louisville, Milwaukee, and a few other obvious suspects. Cities half of Jax's population apparently still added more people. Yikes. Considering that the weather and cost of living in Jax are the same as in SJC and there is still abundant land (basically more land to grow than any other city on that list), this is potentially an eye opening problem.
somre really interesting things here.
1. Growth in Austin is ridiculous...2+% a year for a large market is hardly desirable/sustainable...reference the results of rapid growth in Florida from the 1970s through the 1990s to see the results
2. Chicago and Philly are both growing....first time in decades Always good, but a lot of folks are skeptical about Chicago growth and population loss continues to be a topic brought up and a reason why not every institutional fund is ready to jump into that city...
3. Furthermore, I wonder if Atlanta's growth is really happening this time...the 2010 Census data revealed that the growth estimated to occur between 2000 and 2010 never happened...in fact the city lost population The fact that the city and county didn't register the growth everyone thought last decade raised a ton of eyebrows. Furthermore, what's happened is a major demographic shift in Atlanta and with the amount of infill that has been built and filled in the past 10 years, this isn't surprising.
4. DC is now larger than Baltimore....good for the larger region, yet sad for the city I associated with growing up
5. San Francisco's growth seems incredible for a city that is essentially built out with many neighborhoods that won't densify more San Francisco has close to 10,000 units just completed or UC at this time, so yes, unbelievably this growth is happening. There's another tech boom happening. If you came here your jaw would drop at all the tower cranes - a couple dozen up right now throughout the city, and there is always room to grow...if NYC can explode in population, any city can.
San Francisco has been built out for decades. What areas of the city are responsible for it's continued growth? Also, is this infill a reuse of older building stock or higher density new construction?
Other metro areas are growing faster than here? Good. I hope that trend continues. In fact I would love it if about 250,000 of the people that currently live here decided to pack up and move somewhere else.
...people hear fowling the air...
Because if you dont grow and everyone else does, you get left behind
Assuming Tampa was in a situation where it merged with Hillsborough, it's possible the growth rate would drop because of slow, stagnant or declining growth in rural and older suburban areas.
On the other hand, I find what's happening in Miami very impressive. We know for a fact that those 14,000 new residents were all infill urban growth. By the same token, it's interesting to see that this growth is also taking place in adjacent compact urban centers like Miami Beach and Hialeah as well.
Quote from: timbad;6145180a lot of the upper Market St projects are all still in their burkas, but we can at least get a sense of what their bulk will feel like once they are done. west to east, here are some of them (I didn't get a shot of Icon, closest to Castro) on a gray Memorial Day:
north side of Market at 15th, former Thai restaurant, looking west:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7340/8863254391_227db4879b_b.jpg)
kitty-corner from it, former gas station on south side of Market, being excavated:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/8863856060_f84484674a_b.jpg)
the Whole Foods at Dolores, as seen when approaching from the east:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3829/8863232265_4ff59695d7_b.jpg)
... and from across the street:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8394/8863834260_a7e909b6d5_b.jpg)
kitty-corner from there, former gas station on the corner of Buchanan, looking east:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5460/8863805148_a19e608536_b.jpg)
and looking west from across the street:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8140/8863205387_ef12d8496c_b.jpg)
next to the LGBT Center, former hole in the ground:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3737/8875662256_0f4c5b737f_b.jpg)
and looking west:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5322/8875667660_7aeeea1f6f_b.jpg)
Market and Octavia is still being dug out; hard to get a good shot of the work. this is looking south down the length of the lot:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5334/8863240017_f812b2bd73_b.jpg)
and the BMR component of the Buchanan project, at Page and Franklin, what could be a gateway into Hayes Valley, tho there are a couple parking lots just north of this intersection crying out to be filled with something productive:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3750/8863829592_a6a641d788_b.jpg)
... and a bit more in context, with glimpses of some of the other projects in the distance:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5462/8863818612_f3f067b586_b.jpg)
On top of not offering the quality or quantity of jobs necessary to be considered a destination Millennial market, the local job market is notoriously exclusive to Spanish speakers and Latin Americans, which automatically turns off most Millennials in the US.
Meh. Simms has a point on the language barrier though. Hispanics account for only 16.7 of the US Population, and a job market that is really only open to 16.7 percent of anyone isn't exactly a draw. take into account that among that 16.7% only 25% of them are Millenials and you have about 4% of the US Population left.
Its a large number, but there are other bilingual cities.
And I think its unfair to conflate Simms language barrier statement. Limiting the higher paying job market to white kids from the ivy league during the 1950s and 1960s didnt work out so well either. A lot of talent and raw financial connections were excluded from firms and organizations who simply went elsewhere.
As in San Francisco and Chicago.
And Lake, obviously Latin Americans don't scare off millennials, there are plenty of Latin Millennials. As Stephen said, let's not conflate my statement. I went to college with many South Americans and Cubans from Miami, some went back to Miami (basically the only kids from my college who found jobs in Miami, and others moved on to other cities as most do).
Jacksonville is also young - but would you call it a Millennial market? LoL Let's get serious here. Denver is a Millennial market. Not only is it young, it attracts a wide range of Millennials from all over and provides high paying jobs for them, as well as the quality of life they desire. JOBS is the key. JOBS for everyone. Young/growing industries, too.
Miami is young for other reasons. It doesn't have the robust job market, and it doesn't offer the lifestyle that many millennials stereotypically seek. It's antithetical to what most young people want.
And Tacachale - Hispanic American is wide sweeping. Miami has very few Mexicans...there's proof alone in the pudding that not even all Spanish speakers feel at home in Miami due to cultural differences. In fact, there aren't even that many Puerto Ricans in Miami. If I were Mexican American, I'd sure as hell rather be in Denver, LA, Chicago, Houston, or just about anywhere but Miami (wouldn't it be awkward being the only Mexican in Miami, but still amongst other Spanish speakers who may subconsciously view you as somehow inferior?).
Well two things:
1. Saying that something is an attractive market is different from claiming that it is a 'millenial generation' city. Certainly New Orleans is an attractive market. But it most definitely is not an attraction to Millenials.
2. I think the thing being complained about is Miami's lack of broad diversity. It is certainly not a city for young asian investors, for example. And even within 'hispanic' cultures it can be a pretty bigoted city.
Interestingly, Miami itself is concerned about this problem. (of not having an 'engaged' millenial generation}
In a report last year, partly sponsored by University of Florida:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=miami%20millenial%20generation&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncoc.net%2Findex.php%3Fdownload%3D114kcfl1351&ei=ZiamUf_qJIe-9gSdxYGYCA&usg=AFQjCNG5leUdwy90rNNWAQT-eMMsIP0NQA&sig2=56P7NHyBkAf-NAnA9fZ5GA&bvm=bv.47008514,d.eWU
This report examines the civic health of the Millennial generation in the Miami metropolitan area.1 It follows previous civic health index reports, which contrasted Miami, the least engaged metropolitan area in the nation, with Minneapolis-St. Paul, the most engaged, and the 2011 Florida Civic Health Index, which provided a statewide view of civic engagement among Florida’s Millennial generation.
The coming of age of the Millennial generation—the huge cohort of young people ages 18-30—represents a potentially seismic shift in American politics, society and culture. In sheer size, these teens and twenty- somethings outnumber the adults of the Baby Boom generation. In racial and ethnic terms, they are the most diverse generation in American history: some 40 percent are non-white. And they’re the most educated, with a larger percentage attending college and fewer dropping out of high school than ever before.
Florida is at the forefront of this profound demographic shift. It is an emerging “majority-minority†state with one of the largest young, non-white populations in the nation. The changing demographics of the Sunshine State are, in large part, driven by the Miami metropolitan area. Thus, by examining civic engagement levels of Miami Millennials we hope to provide a glimpse into the future civic health of Florida. We are certainly aware that an examination of civic engagement of the least engaged generation residing in the least engaged metropolitan area will reveal findings that are of great concern. However, the goal of this report is to also serve as a point of departure in generating community conversations about the means by which individuals can become more engaged in civic life. Ultimately, solutions to the "Civic Engagement Deficit" in the Miami metropolitan area must emerge from citizens and institutions working together to realize a shared vision of an engaged civic community.
For Forbes list of the top cities for Millenials check here. (hint: none of them are in Florida)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/04/24/the-10-happiest-cities-for-young-professionals/2/
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/files/2010/10/millennials-confident-connected-open-to-change.pdf
here is a somewhat limited guide to millenial demographics.
I say limited because it only accounts for about 10 years, which is not truly a 'generation'.
Millenials in general were born from 1980 to about 2000. some people would say 1984 until 911.
The youngest Millenial would be 12 years old now, and the oldest would be 33. The pew numbers reflect the older half of that generation---which is what we are also all talking about now.
For Forbes list of the top cities for Millenials check here. (hint: none of them are in Florida)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/04/24/the-10-happiest-cities-for-young-professionals/2/
For Forbes list of the top cities for Millenials check here. (hint: none of them are in Florida)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2013/04/24/the-10-happiest-cities-for-young-professionals/2/
This highlights some places Forbes believes young professionals are more attracted to. However, it does not suggest that every place not shown on the list is failing to attract and retain millennials.
Btw, millennials aren't necessarily "young professionals". In general, millennials (also known as Generation Y, Echo Boomers, etc.) are the generation of people born between the early 1980s and 2000′s.
true but considering that Miami is in the top five largest metropolitan areas, you would expect that they would make the top ten if it were actually a magnet to the largest generation of living americans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_and_metropolitan_areas_of_the_United_States
Hmm. I didnt actually have to call the Census Bureau as they publish reports. I googled them instead.
I think both Stephen and Simms are both falling afoul of their own terminology. Not all Millennials are "young professionals", and vice versa.
Obviously thats true, but are very poor, working class, or very wealthy millenials really the groups most likely to relocate to a different city based on their aesthetics and professional prospects?
Hmm. I didnt actually have to call the Census Bureau as they publish reports. I googled them instead.
So what's the population loss of the millennial generation in the City of Miami over the last decade? From what I can tell from Miami's census data is that there is no population loss. Thus, logic would suggest that population growth within this generation indicates the city is attracting and retaining this population. All the stuff about San Francisco and other cities is pure babble and not even worthy of spending time to debate. Either this place is seeing growth or decline. There is no middle ground when simply evaluating the absolute numbers.
so in other words, you don't know? ;)
I think both Stephen and Simms are both falling afoul of their own terminology. Not all Millennials are "young professionals", and vice versa.
Obviously thats true, but are very poor, working class, or very wealthy millenials really the groups most likely to relocate to a different city based on their aesthetics and professional prospects?
It really depends. There are other factors at play like quality-of-life, proximity to family, cultural comfort, etc. Nevertheless, all of this is irrelevant to the discussion of whether Miami is holding its own in attracting and retaining millennials. If it's in decline, census numbers would reflect this. They don't.
well to be technical the jury is still out on that. Miami seems to think that they aren't, but what do they know?
2000: 77,287 - 21.4% - 20 to 34 years
2010: 94,452 - 23.7% - 20 to 34 years
Miami does just fine in attracting/keeping millenials
Main Entry: millennial generation
Part of Speech: n
Definition: a term used to refer to the generation, born from 1980 onward, brought up using digital technology and mass media; the children of Baby Boomers; also called Generation Y
Etymology: 1991
Usage: also millennial (adj., n.)
Let me simplify this.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the City of Miami added 17,165 people between the ages of 20-34 between 2000 to 2010.
Census: Population - % of total city population - Age
2000: 77,287 - 21.4% - 20 to 34 years
2010: 94,452 - 23.7% - 20 to 34 years
http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=DEC_00_SF1_DP1&prodType=table
http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_11_5YR_DP05
Census estimates suggest Miami added 14,435 residents between 2010 and 2010. If percentages have remained the same, that means the 20-34 age group has added 3,640 people in two years. Considering the entire city is only 35 square miles (roughly the same size as Jacksonville's urban core), I'd say that's holding its own.
Jacksonville is also young - but would you call it a Millennial market? LoL Let's get serious here. Denver is a Millennial market. Not only is it young, it attracts a wide range of Millennials from all over and provides high paying jobs for them, as well as the quality of life they desire. JOBS is the key. JOBS for everyone. Young/growing industries, too.
Miami is young for other reasons. It doesn't have the robust job market, and it doesn't offer the lifestyle that many millennials stereotypically seek. It's antithetical to what most young people want.
dude....have you been to Miami lately? Not that I want to lump all young people together, but I think they are often looking for a lively music & cultural scene, a multitude of dining options, lots of recreational opportunities, and often hip cool urban housing....all of which Miami (and Miami Beach) have in abundance!
as for Jacksonville and millenials....the same data source that said 18-34 year olds make up 24% of Miami-Dade population says Duval is also at 24%....a key difference here vs. Miami would be the # of folks in the Navy...btw, do they count as millenials to you?
2000: 77,287 - 21.4% - 20 to 34 years
2010: 94,452 - 23.7% - 20 to 34 years
I believe the appropriate word here would be....BOOM!
Im not sure that a 2% increase would fall into the boom category, tufsu, but since victories of this sort are obviously very rare for you,...please take all the pleasure you would like vicariously.
Saying that something is holding its own, is a very far cry from declaring it a hub of activity, after all. ;)
This is like TUFSU's inclusion of Winn Dixie as a "Dining Option" in the booming downtown dining scene that he was trying to describe back in 2008 I suppose.
Also lake, numbers can be tricky things, especially when talking about age groups. People have this depressing habit of continuing to get older. So a person who was thirty two who moved to miami in 2001, for example, would presently be 44 or 45.
Not exactly a millennial.
So while I applaud you for taking the time to accumulate so much data from 2000 to 2010, I regret to have to be the one to tell you that the data, as presented, is useless to the current discussion.
Also lake, numbers can be tricky things, especially when talking about age groups. People have this depressing habit of continuing to get older. So a person who was thirty two who moved to miami in 2001, for example, would presently be 44 or 45.
Not exactly a millennial.
So while I applaud you for taking the time to accumulate so much data from 2000 to 2010, I regret to have to be the one to tell you that the data, as presented, is useless to the current discussion.
Feel free to tally up some numbers and present why you think Miami is failing to appeal to the 20-34 age group.
I've already closed and rested my case. My point has always been that Miami appears to holding its own. Census numbers reflect this. To this point, nothing has been presented on your behalf that proves otherwise.
The reasons why may be debatable but that's not my argument.
Im glad you think so, as they certainly don't support anything to the contrary of what I have said either.
I assume that we have given up claiming or agreeing with TUFSU that Miami is just a burning hub of Millennial relocation?
If that point is conceded, then my work is long since done. ;)
Miami does just fine in attracting/keeping millenials
Also lake, numbers can be tricky things, especially when talking about age groups. People have this depressing habit of continuing to get older. So a person who was thirty two who moved to miami in 2001, for example, would presently be 44 or 45.
Not exactly a millennial.
So while I applaud you for taking the time to accumulate so much data from 2000 to 2010, I regret to have to be the one to tell you that the data, as presented, is useless to the current discussion.
Feel free to tally up some numbers and present why you think Miami is failing to appeal to the 20-34 age group.
I've already closed and rested my case. My point has always been that Miami appears to holding its own. Census numbers reflect this. To this point, nothing has been presented on your behalf that proves otherwise.
The reasons why may be debatable but that's not my argument.
Im glad you think so, as they certainly don't support anything to the contrary of what I have said either.
I assume that we have given up claiming or agreeing with TUFSU that Miami is just a burning hub of Millennial relocation?
If that point is conceded, then my work is long since done. ;)
Lol, burning hub of Millennial relocation? How did you interpret that opinion from this simple comment?Miami does just fine in attracting/keeping millenials
Study: Young professionals dominate downtown Miami
Downtown Miami is skewing younger, emerging as an attractive location for young professionals seeking a more urban lifestyle, with incomes exceeding that of the city of Miami and Miami-Dade County, according to a new study.
The Miami Downtown Development Authority’s Population & Demographic Profile Study indicates that 57 percent of residents were age 20 to 44 and had a per capita income that is higher than both Miami and the county.
The study also shows the number of households has increased 93 percent since 2000.
There were 23,000 new residential units delivered in Miami between 2003 and 2010. The area’s population stands at about 72,000 people as of midyear, representing a 9 percent increase, year-over-year, and outpacing the 6.8 percent growth rate experienced during the previous decade, according to the DDA.
The area’s per capita income grew by 39 percent from 2000, and far exceeded that of the city of Miami and Miami-Dade County. Additionally, more than 65 percent of employed downtown residents work as professionals, with an average household income of $43,992.
“The influx of new residents is transforming the area into a 24-7 urban community and is having a ripple effect by attracting additional investments to the area,†DDA Executive Director Alyce Robertson said in a statement.
According to the report, downtown Miami's rapidly expanding population is generating growing demand for retail, restaurants, entertainment and cultural facilities, as well as enhancing the area’s drawing power as an international destination for business and tourism. As a result of this population growth, retail has flourished, with more than 200 new restaurants and shops opening since 2005, with many catering to the younger demographic.
Major mixed-use projects such as Genting Group’s Resorts World Miami, Swire Properties' Brickell CitiCentre and Espacio USA’s 1400 Biscayne Center project are examples of international developers betting big on downtown Miami’s future. The $3.8 billion Resorts Worth Miami might include gambling if the Florida Legislature approves it.
New residential condominiums are also in the works, with both Newgard Development Group and The Related Group planning towers.
“Downtown Miami’s vibrancy is unheralded considering the general state of the U.S. economic recovery,†said report co-author Craig Werley, of Focus Real Estate Advisors, in a statement. “This report confirms the district’s long-term viability and role as Florida’s most critical economic engine.â€
Simms3, Miami is perplexing. I think we all can agree that it is a non-traditional place with international appeal. You'll get no argument from me that it is a top relocation spot for millennials or not. I'm not sure why Stephen is attempting to push the conversation in that direction. However, no one can deny is still drawing them some type of way, which equates to holding it's own.
As for job prospects, what year did you come out of school? If it was between 2007-2010, it was a horrible place. However, it was one of the top spots in the country that took the full blow of the real estate bust. When I came out of school in 2001, there were architecture jobs there. I'm not sure what's the current status, but the cranes are back.
really?
maybe because your comment was in response to this?On the other hand, I find what's happening in Miami very impressive. We know for a fact that those 14,000 new residents were all infill urban growth. By the same token, it's interesting to see that this growth is also taking place in adjacent compact urban centers like Miami Beach and Hialeah as well.
I'd love more details as to the nature of the growth in Miami. It's my understanding that the bulk of new construction in Miami and South FL remains luxury for sale condos in coastal areas, some affordable housing projects in north/central Miami, and tourist-driven retail and mega-projects in the coastal areas. I don't see young 18-32 year old college grads and young professionals flocking to South FL like they are currently flocking to a few markets in TX, CA, WA, DC and other more traditional education-based employment centers. I believe it's still flight money/investment home buyers tied to foreign residents and northern residents making Miami their primary, even if they don't live there year round.
Otherwise I think you'd hear more "employment" announcements (not related to service industry) and corporate announcements tied to Miami, and actual office construction, versus the luxury high rise communities still sprouting up like weeds that cater to a different clientele.
Simms3, Miami is perplexing. I think we all can agree that it is a non-traditional place with international appeal. You'll get no argument from me that it is a top relocation spot for millennials or not. I'm not sure why Stephen is attempting to push the conversation in that direction. However, no one can deny is still drawing them some type of way, which equates to holding it's own.
As for job prospects, what year did you come out of school? If it was between 2007-2010, it was a horrible place. However, it was one of the top spots in the country that took the full blow of the real estate bust. When I came out of school in 2001, there were architecture jobs there. I'm not sure what's the current status, but the cranes are back.
I can't believe this thread got on this much of a tangent! The fact that the three most serious debaters on Metrojacksonville are going crazy (you, me and Stephen) over what's driving or not driving Millennial growth in Miami is indicative of the fact that the city/metro is soooo perplexing.
Lake, you're in architecture...so if you have a job I have a job, literally, since we're tied to the same industry. If Miami has construction, that means there is investor interest...which likely means we are there! (we are) To be candid, my shift has focused to the west coast and I work primarily in a fund that has four designated target markets whereby a certain $ amount has to be allocated to two asset classes within these four markets, obviously Miami is not one of these markets. But it's a market of interest to this fund, and another I work in. It's crazy confusing.
Honestly, I don't think the surge in real estate activity is driven by the 20-34 age group, which would be driven by a heated job market. I think relative to the state and the city, historically, the job market's pretty hot, but when you put Miami up against Atlanta, which also got hit HARD, or Houston/Dallas/Austin, DC, Denver, Boston, NYC, Seattle, Minneapolis, LA, SF, etc etc it can't hold a candle in quality or quantity job creation for 20-34 year olds. That drives construction, which you see in these markets. What you see in Miami is construction driven by foreigners, I think, and tourism.
What also drives construction towards larger projects is the fact that the city has barriers and is built out. I have walked Brickell Ave multiple times within the past year or two (our corporate hotel is the new JW in DT). I am out scouring for people and places. Miami is IMPRESSIVE to me. It's a big city. But it can't hold a candle in any which way to SF, in any way.
In Atlanta you have a low enough COL and a high enough pay whereby 26 year olds (friend in town visiting I saw tonight, who is from Boston and went to undergrad with me in Atl) are buying 2 BR condos in the city...and he is a stock trader and can tell you legitimately what he does, something that seems rare for lots of people in SoFla. You don't have that in Miami unless they have sponsors (i.e. foreign parents with money).
19. Miami, FL
Bliss Score: 3.679/5
“Miami is not only a hotbed of clubs and beach activity," Golledge tells us.
"Whether they are working for a large technology company, in hospitality or a retail organization, young professionals consistently mentioned that their co-workers and daily tasks influenced their overall happiness.â€
No. 2 - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Overall Score: 3.665
^ Not that I know of! By the way Lake I read that little exchange with "Simms" on Metro Jacksonville and the "Millenials" BS! The guy bashes Miami every chance he gets then goes to our page on SSP wanting to see the latest projects.
I guess he never thought "educated " "bi-linguals" & "hispanics" would want to stay in Miami after they graduate considering we have a ton of multi-national corporations who base their Latin American HeadQuarters in Miami!
^From WikiPedia:
Miami serves as the headquarters of Latin American operations for more than 1400 multinational corporations, including AIG, American Airlines, Cisco, Disney, Exxon, FedEx, Kraft Foods, LEO Pharma Americas, Microsoft, Yahoo, Oracle, SBC Communications, Sony, Symantec, Visa International, and Wal-Mart.
"Simms" must be think everyone in Miami is working at McDonalds!
He also seems to think nobody would want to live in Miami unless they speak Spanish, but that certainly isn't true. Let me go look at what he said.
Big cities surpassed the rate of growth of their surrounding suburbs at an even faster clip, a sign of America's continuing preference for urban living after the economic downturn quelled enthusiasm for less-crowded expanses.
Farther-out suburbs known as exurbs saw their growth slip to 0.35 percent, the lowest in more than a decade.
...
Suburbs in the South and West also are seeing some gains, such as those around Houston, Phoenix, Las Vegas and Jacksonville, Fla.
New Orleans, which saw its population shrivel in the mid-2000s after Hurricane Katrina, continued to post the biggest increase in city growth relative to suburbs in the past year  2.5 percent vs. 0.6 percent. Atlanta, Richmond, Va., Denver, Boston and Charlotte, N.C., also showed wide disparities between city and suburbs.
Other big cities showing faster growth compared with the previous year include Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, San Francisco and Columbus, Ohio.
In all, primary cities in large metropolitan areas with populations of more than 1 million grew by 1.12 percent last year, compared with 0.97 percent in surrounding suburbs. In 2011, the gap between city and suburb growth was narrower  1.03 percent vs. 0.96 percent.
During the mid-decade housing boom, city growth had come to a standstill, while exurban growth rose by 2 percent, as the wide availability of low-interest mortgages pushed new residential development outward.
...
â€â€New York remained the nation's most populous city, at 8.3 million, with the rest of the top 10 unchanged. Austin, Texas, moved up from 13th to 11th, supplanting Jacksonville, Fla.; Indianapolis slipped from 12th to 13th.
^To me, it reads like they are defining city verses suburbs by municipal limits of the core city. That means, most of Duval is the "city" and our rapidly growing burbs are basically Clay and St. Johns County.