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Title: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on February 13, 2013, 04:06:41 AM
Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District

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The Telfair Stockton & Company developed a significant chunk of Jacksonville's urban core that we know and love today.  While Springfield, Avondale, and San Marco stand out to most, Stockton also was heavily involved in Jacksonville's growth as an industrial center.  Here is a before and after look at the remains of Stockton's largest manufacturing center in Jacksonville's urban core: The Springfield Warehouse District.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-feb-neighborhoods-springfield-warehouse-district
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: billy on February 13, 2013, 05:49:49 AM
Great article, great area, so much potential.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: strider on February 13, 2013, 07:56:19 AM
The pricing for these buildings has seen a drop recently, perhaps spurring the recent sales of buildings that have been for sale for years.  You, of course, just talked about the older ones, but there are several from the 40's and 50's that are in use today and give the area a busier feel and keep it from appearing abandoned. 

I thought that the old Coca Cola building and the warehouses behind them would have been a good location for Intuition Ale Works.  The Coca Cola building could be made a landmark and so tax credits could be used to convert it to offices and public space.   The warehouses have no roofs at the moment and as they are not in the historic district, one could utilize the existing walls and raise the roof for the needed height in an affordable way.  Anyway, that was what I saw as possibility for that location.  And indicates that the area can be both preserved and adapted to today's needs by using the landmark  or historic status to your advantage while do so selectively to meet your needs.

I've wanted one of thses  buildings for sometime now, I just can't justify the added expense yet, though we just had to expand.   The Southern Hardware & Bicycle Company building was most recently an event production company and was pretty well gone through and so is in good shape and could be moved into and used. Someone will get it before I can I'm sure.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: Debbie Thompson on February 13, 2013, 08:43:26 AM
So much potential for a work/live/retail district!  Lofts, offices, restaurants, shops.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: iloveionia on February 13, 2013, 10:31:22 AM
Ennis, outstanding article.  Love, love the history and pics.
I would be interested to know who owns what and what is for sale.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: billy on February 13, 2013, 02:06:31 PM
What has changed hands recently?
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: sheclown on February 14, 2013, 07:25:55 AM
Ennis, great article. Looks like the beginning of another book? 

Yes, Strider has drooled over the buildings for a long time.  He stops and secures an open doorway or two when he sees them.  A grateful owner offered him a good deal on rent which he almost talked me into.  Strider would really like to see Team Recovery Welding Shop expand into Springfield Boat Works. 

The glory days of Springfield.  Jobs!!  Cool warehouses!!  Bakeries churning out loaves.  I would love to spend a day back in time and see it.  You've given me the next best thing, Ennis.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: sheclown on February 14, 2013, 07:29:37 AM
There is the mattress factory on the 2100 block of Walnut.  Joe and I have been in there.  We looked at it for a client about ten years ago.  Really cool space.  I'll take a photo and post it. 
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: mbwright on February 14, 2013, 09:35:21 AM
Several years ago I got to see the inside of the Soloman building on Main.  Amazing how well these old buildings were built.  Would make some great loft space.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: mbwright on February 14, 2013, 09:38:31 AM
Anybody have old photos of the Dorsey Bakery, or possibly inside pictures?  Maybe a copy of the site from the Sanborn maps?  I'm in Tallahassee and don't have time to get to the Jax library for research.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: thelakelander on February 14, 2013, 09:46:54 AM
I'm heading to the library's Special Collections Department for a few hours after a 10am meeting.  I'll see what I can dig up.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: thelakelander on February 14, 2013, 12:19:22 PM
I didn't come across any images but the Sanborn maps of the entire district are pretty interesting.  First, here are Sanborn maps of the Dorsey bakery in 1927, 1953 and 1965:

1927
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1953
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1965
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Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: thelakelander on February 14, 2013, 12:27:02 PM
Some other interesting observations of the warehouse district  and Warren via Sanborn maps over the years:

The Chevrolet Parts Warehouse at 11th & Liberty replaced a roundhouse, shown in this 1927 map.
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The Springfield (Warren maybe?) passenger railroad station was next door, near Walnut Street.
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Same spot shown in 1953. Btw, the furniture warehouse next door to Chevrolet was Haverty's.
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Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: Wacca Pilatka on February 14, 2013, 12:47:44 PM
Thanks for sharing all these images, along with the article itself of course.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: thelakelander on February 14, 2013, 12:53:48 PM
Some more.  This district appeared to be dominated by bakery and automobile industries.  Several tire/rubber companies from the Midwest also had operations adjacent to the Chevrolet and Studebaker operations.  The building mentioned as Southern Hardware & Bicycle in the article was originally BF Goodrich.

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Ward Baking Company's site is now used as parking for Swisher employees.  In the 1960s, Ward was indicted for violating the Sherman Act by rigging bids and price fixing the government for baked goods headed to Jacksonville's naval operations. 

https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/US/376/376.US.327.101.html

Here's Ward and Pic N' Save (National Drug) in 1965.
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Ward Baking in 1927.
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Today, everything east of Walnut Street is Swisher's plant.  Look how small Swisher's operation was in 1965.  Their old building, which is still there today, contained multiple floors in a building squeezed between Ionia and the railroad.
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The other major bakery was the Merita bread plant at 11th & Market.  Although they demolished the old plant after they built a modern facility at Imeson, Hostess continued to maintain their fleet operations here until the recent shutdown.  Here is the plant in 1927.
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Merita (American Bakeries) in 1965.
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Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: mbwright on February 15, 2013, 03:05:37 PM
Thanks for the research  My wife is closely related to W. S. Dorsey.    He also had a general store around 1905 near Bay st, about where the Omni is now.  Same Dorsey that was also in Gainesville.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: MusicMan on March 27, 2013, 10:07:41 AM
For anyone interested, the warehouse located at 2303 Market Street, sight of the former Hutting Sash and Door Company, sold last week for $120,000.  This was one of my favorite buildings in Springfield. I showed it to several prospective buyers. It was in good condition, 57,000 square feet, with mostly original heart pine post and beam construction inside. I personally thought it would have been a perfect sight for Intuition Ale Works because the back of the buidling was two stories high and might have been able to accomodate the taller brewing canisters they use. If anyone knows who bought it please give us some insight as to what the new owner plans for this location.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: thelakelander on March 27, 2013, 10:15:11 AM
I'm just hoping they use it.  I ran into a commercial broker earlier this year and he was telling me how valuable the materials in those old warehouses would be if they were demolished and sold off.  He specifically mentioned heart pine and brick.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: MusicMan on March 27, 2013, 10:27:30 AM
Yes, I know exactly what you mean. There is a tremendous amount of lumber in there. A ton underneath the floor, too. It sits on huge timbers, I imagine are pine as well.
Title: Re: Neighborhoods: Springfield Warehouse District
Post by: Debbie Thompson on March 27, 2013, 12:46:28 PM
Oh, no!