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Title: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on January 10, 2013, 03:03:15 AM
Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street

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By the end of 2013, we'll know if a large mixed-use senior living community proposed by Roundstone Development and Petra Management will become a game changer for Springfield's Main Street.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-jan-major-infill-headed-to-springfields-main-street
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: jaxlore on January 10, 2013, 09:21:09 AM
wow. Interesting if it comes to fruition.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: John P on January 10, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
Theres already been a lot of conversation on another Metrojacksonville post http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,16565.0.html
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: JeffreyS on January 10, 2013, 09:36:29 AM
What if anything can we do to encourage this project. Would community support be worthwhile.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: CityLife on January 10, 2013, 09:45:43 AM
What if anything can we do to encourage this project. Would community support be worthwhile.

Pretty sure this happening will be contingent upon funding. However, if the developers get funding they may need some community support for any waivers, exceptions, or variances they would need from the city. Sounds like that would be down the road quite a bit though.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: gedo3 on January 10, 2013, 10:48:17 AM
Sounds like a great idea!  However, two small questions...exactly how expensive (especially in this economy) would these "luxury" units be?  Also, what, if anything will be done to calm potential elderly residents (and their family) concerning perceived dangers in Springfield?
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Bill Hoff on January 10, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
These aren't luxury units, rather classified as affordable housing. So price will be very reasonable. See Madison Manner in the 'burbs of Jax for another example of affordable senior housing, however this development would be higher quality. Affordable can be very nuce, though.

As far as the "percieved dangers" - get real. The crime rate in the Springfield historic district is virtually identical to Riverside and Murray Hill.

The ill-informed can learn from www.myspringfield.org, Metrojacksonville, or personal experience.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: tufsu1 on January 10, 2013, 12:36:51 PM
on a semi-related note:

EPIC Communities Release, Thursday, January 10th at 5:30 pm at the West Touchdown Club at EverBank Field
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: urbaknight on January 10, 2013, 02:59:32 PM
They say the plans aren't completely finalized yet, who wants to bet that they'll have to suburbanize the place before it can get approval.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Tacachale on January 10, 2013, 04:21:39 PM
Looks like an impressive project. Hopefully the funding comes through.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: duvaldude08 on August 08, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
Soo....... What is the latest on this?
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Bill Hoff on August 08, 2013, 05:44:55 PM
Soo....... What is the latest on this?

On track as of a few weeks ago. Depends on getting some kind of federal tax credits, which they should know the status of in the Fall.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Garden guy on August 08, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
Id love to see a street car stop right out front of this place.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Cheshire Cat on August 08, 2013, 06:40:02 PM
Id love to see a street car stop right out front of this place.
I would love to see streetcars come back.  That is an asset that the city seems to remain blind to.  It would create a positive in development and really impact tourism in Jacksonville.  I don't know what it might take to get those in office to understand that this is a good investment for Jacksonville.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: JayBird on August 08, 2013, 06:44:47 PM
Id love to see a street car stop right out front of this place.
I would love to see streetcars come back.  That is an asset that the city seems to remain blind to.  It would create a positive in development and really impact tourism in Jacksonville.  I don't know what it might take to get those in office to understand that this is a good investment for Jacksonville.

I agree, I hear about all these lobbyists and corporations that sway city council members, where is Bombardiers lobbyists? I will gladly pay their hotel bill if they'd like to come sweet talk Jacksonville.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Cheshire Cat on August 08, 2013, 07:22:09 PM
In all honesty, Bob Mann, Ennis, Stephen and others have been on the front side of this discussion for a long time.  I always remain hopeful that long closed eyes will open.  The problem has always been the money, favors offered and connections lobbyists have.  We can no longer let their efforts overshadow the good things that are possible in this city if and when those we elect begin to listen to experts outside of their personal circles and rather to the community at large and the individuals among them with the expertise that is often lacking in those closed circles.  Politicians need to remain mindful that they are employed by the voters and citizens not the lobbyists.   When the people keep this reality at the front of their interactions with politicians and back up their views with their voices and votes, things can and will change.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Garden guy on August 08, 2013, 07:37:04 PM
Itll take more than sweet talkin..itll take a fundamental change in action...becoming proactive instead of reactive...most of our leaders cant think past their own time at the helm.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Cheshire Cat on August 08, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
Itll take more than sweet talkin..itll take a fundamental change in action...becoming proactive instead of reactive...most of our leaders cant think past their own time at the helm.
Indeed.  Many of us have been proactive for a very long time.  We need more folks to wake up to the reality that their efforts and ideas can change the direction of Jacksonville. We all have a voice, use it.  If you are reading here, you understand both the impact of the internet and social media, use that too.  "Time's a wastin" people and Jacksonville is "wastin" along with it. Don't let that remain the status quo please!
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: thelakelander on August 08, 2013, 07:49:57 PM
Itll take more than sweet talkin..itll take a fundamental change in action...becoming proactive instead of reactive...most of our leaders cant think past their own time at the helm.
We got you a local funding mechanism two years ago (mobility fee). We just need to collect it and keep it from being used on something else.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Debbie Thompson on August 08, 2013, 08:14:05 PM
Gee.....if only they hadn't decided on a moratorium right after they passed it......
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Cheshire Cat on August 08, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
Again, times are changing and so is the political mood in Jacksonville.  The internet will be what makes the difference in local politics in it's ability to inform, expose and bring issues to the forefront.  The importance of people stepping up, contact politicians and insisting on what is right for Jacksonville as opposed to right for NE Florida Builders and others cannot be underestimated. 
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Ocklawaha on August 08, 2013, 09:22:51 PM


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At least the book will be out next year, from Arcadia.

I'd love to take the city council boys and girls out to a nice heritage streetcar operation, I'd savor the chance to teach Richard Clark and his friends how to work on the overhead... OH SHIT! Who plugged it back in? Damn! Oops.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Cheshire Cat on August 08, 2013, 09:37:05 PM


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At least the book will be out next year, from Arcadia.

I'd love to take the city council boys and girls out to a nice heritage streetcar operation, I'd savor the chance to teach Richard Clark and his friends how to work on the overhead... OH SHIT! Who plugged it back in? Damn! Oops.
Bob, Goal is 2015 and finding the candidates who "get it" about streetcars, rail and all things transportation.  Time we are all "plugged in" again.  lol
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Koula on August 09, 2013, 11:00:43 AM
I also hope funding pulls through for this project. My mom is close to retirement, and she would love to move to a walkable part of Jacksonville. If this project, the street car, and maybe a few more food options, get built in Springfield, the area would be really great for car-free folks!
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Debbie Thompson on August 18, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
Koula, there are already multiple bus routes through Springfield, so I'd say it's already a great choice for car free folks.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: JayBird on August 18, 2013, 08:26:17 PM
Koula, there are already multiple bus routes through Springfield, so I'd say it's already a great choice for car free folks.

With only the CT1 and L9 left running up Main Street in Springfield I wouldn't say that is "multiple bus routes", but it is only a ten minute walk from this proposed site to Rosa Parks, so this is one of the few areas in Jax you can live without a car today.
Title: Re: Major Infill Headed To Springfield's Main Street
Post by: Debbie Thompson on August 19, 2013, 01:45:08 PM
L9 runs down Pearl Street. So does NS19. All three blocks from the project.  C2 runs down 8th Street.   There are probably others, but those are the ones that come to my mind.