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Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« on: December 03, 2009, 06:07:04 AM »
Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?



It's one of the most talked about topics at the water cooler - the Jaguars - and their ticket sales woes. Up to this point, the Jaguars have yet to even be close to selling out any of their home games, and most likely will not for the rest of the year. It seems every national media outlet has had at least one writer take a shot at Jacksonville for the lack of ticket sales.

Today, Metro Jacksonville continues its seven part series discussing the Jaguars and the Jacksonville Market, and how they compare to other NFL cities.

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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2009-dec-jaguars-on-the-field-how-do-we-compare

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 07:21:37 AM »
Very insightful to put it in these terms.  It's so easy to get the mentality (especially because of Gainesville) that if you're not first, you lost.  JAGS are a great team when you step back and look at the big picture. 

While I did not renew my season tickets for this year (personal economic reasons), I am committing to renew these next year.  I sure hope we keep this team...

PS - Quentin Groves is starting to play like we wanted him to play, but he is best at the 3-4 defense (which we are far from perfecting).  When we drafted him, we knew he would only play about 40% of the downs.  If only he won't trip himself up next time he goes for a touchdown!  ;P

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 08:05:33 AM »
Tom Coughlin was great at selecting first round picks. But he struck out on quite a few second round picks (Larry Smith, Cordell Taylor most notabley) and the majority of his picks after round two made little to no impact on this team.

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2009, 09:41:45 AM »
^True, which also shows the importance of good drafting.  If they had drafted better, then they wouldn't have needed all of those high priced free agents.  However, the situation wasn't as bad, because the first round picks were successful.

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2009, 09:53:35 AM »
It's also the reason the Jaguars have been somewhat successful under Jack Del Rio despite the mediocre first round picks. Mid-late round picks like Sims-Walker, Wilford, Manuwai, McCray and Scobee produced.

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2009, 11:13:23 AM »
Thanks for the article Steve (assuming you are the author).

I don't think anyone could have said it better.

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2009, 11:36:27 AM »
Well written article and I agree with it. I (like Hurricane above) didn't renew this year, only for economic purposes and plan to renew again next year. It hurt not to renew this year as I hadn't missed a home game in 6 years.

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2009, 12:12:46 PM »
If you can afford to attend just one game this season, I urge everyone to buy tickets to the Dec. 17 game against the Colts.

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2009, 12:53:42 PM »
Hopefully they can gel as a team and start all playing together on the same page every game.  Let's leave the Seahawk and 49er's games in the past!

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2009, 03:39:39 PM »
"If you can afford to attend just one game this season, I urge everyone to buy tickets to the Dec. 17 game against the Colts."

I have 6 , count 'em, 6 tickets to the game!

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 06:05:28 PM »
Just reported on WJXT, speculation Jags may move to L.A. - they are going to build a new stadium contingent upon securing a team.  No comment from Jags camp, L.A. very smug saying 50/50 chance "a team" will sign.

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 06:44:12 PM »
Just reported on WJXT, speculation Jags may move to L.A. - they are going to build a new stadium contingent upon securing a team.  No comment from Jags camp, L.A. very smug saying 50/50 chance "a team" will sign.

This video came out the other day and was on Jaguars This Week.  The smug L.A. person is affiliated with Majestic Realty, whose CEO is the individual who would be majority owner of an L.A. team. 

While not to dismiss the seriousness of this situation at all, remember:

1) There's no reason to conclude the team they're referring to is definitely Jacksonville

2) The person making the statement has a vested interest in the situation and may be using puffery to sway opinion

I am very frightened of how many in Jacksonville seem to be taking the endless L.A. talk to heart and acting as though the team is a goner and no one should buy tickets, or inventing the idea that the city never supported the team, or just turning on the team altogether and constantly maligning it.  This is exactly what the L.A. people want.

Do not give them what they want.
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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 09:54:04 PM »
ditto

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 06:54:51 AM »
good series but is there information available on the web regarding approximate team economics?  I know that Forbes generally ranks teams by value each year but the reality is that these franchises are ongoing businesses.  Jacksonville has low attendance lately but also has a pretty sweet stadium lease.  That is what folks need to look at more than just overall attendance.  Tampa had the worst team in the league in every category for decades, the Jaguars program isnt even close.  why are they still there?  Because they made money.  The LA thing still makes me laugh.  You would have to be truly desperate or insane to commit to some bozo with an NFL franchise that had not even begun to turn dirt.  What is the lease on that thing anyway?  At least more than $50 million a year.  What do the Jaguars pay? $4-5 something like that.  LA lost two teams.  Ask any sports writer based there.  They dont care.  If anyone goes there it will be the Rams coming back home.  Buy your tickets though because we have a great franchise when I look around the rest of the league.  Small town, big city, the economics are just different.

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Re: Jaguars on the Field: How do we compare?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2009, 08:41:55 AM »
I bought my tix for the Colts game.  Even though I didn't renew the season tix this year, I have been able to go to 5 out of the 10.  The only thing is that I am buying off the resale market (Stub Hub), therefore it really isn't providing additional ticket sales for the team...   Go JAGS!