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City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« on: October 16, 2009, 06:02:40 AM »
City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?



As part of the $3.5 million project to create reversible lanes for stadium events, the City of Jacksonville has milled and re-paved Bay Street from Main Street to Talleyrand Drive. The only problem is, the street was in perfect condition.

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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 06:47:57 AM »
In addition, there are several streets in that immediate area which are in need of repairs/ repaving. 

AND they better bring back the paw prints!

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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 07:06:28 AM »
There are streets in worse shape, but I think the repaving was for the new "reversible" striping pattern.  I see in the pictures all the lines in the "after" picture a short and yellow, while the "before" are the more traditional yellow in the middle, and white between lanes going the same direction.  All part of the plan to get people into and out of the Sports Complex more quickly.  I did see somewhere that it will still require lots of police to implement, so where's the benefit of the fancy lights?

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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2009, 07:53:39 AM »
what a waste....

who's idea was it for this particular part of the project?

i'd like to have his contact info.
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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2009, 07:57:50 AM »
Um....they did just restripe for 2-way traffic and widen a portion of the road by a few feet...more often than not a road is resurfaced when these activities occur....for example, when they added a lane in each direction of I-10 (at the new Cecil Commerce Pkwy) they also resurfaced the existing lanes.

btw....this entire project, which includes all the new mast arm signals, new sidewalks, and the resurfacing/restriping cost around $3 million....that's pretty good for a one mile (+/-) stretch, especially when you consider that mas arms like that often cost $100,000 each!
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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2009, 08:36:12 AM »
The BIG question is... Are they going to repaint the Jaguar paw prints on the new surface?? :o
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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2009, 08:39:12 AM »
Knowing this town, they'll instead put back the original gator footprints that predated the Jags.

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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2009, 08:39:48 AM »
I could never see the need to pay $3 Million Dollars so all of the suburbanites can run home faster after games. Instead of sitting in traffic, there are a few restaurants and bars downtown that do not charge $11 for a bud lite. Also apparently notifying the business owners on that street about the construction was an after thought.
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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2009, 08:40:58 AM »
I thought it looked pretty nice during my drive on Bay Street Monday night and it's just in time for FLA-GA. I believe part of this project was the expansion of sidewalks along Bay Street around the stadium.  A better question would be to ask where the money came from. This could have been allocated years ago.

Does anyone know if the historically teal Hart Bridge had anything to do with the selection of the Jaguars primary color?
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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2009, 08:45:54 AM »
I could never see the need to pay $3 Million Dollars so all of the suburbanites can run home faster after games. Instead of sitting in traffic, there are a few restaurants and bars downtown that do not charge $11 for a bud lite. Also apparently notifying the business owners on that street about the construction was an after thought.
Again the misconception that this is solely for Jaguars games.  What about all the folks who come in for FL/GA, the fair, Gator Bowl, etc?  IIRC, traffic SNAFUs after last years' FL/GA game caused murmurings of the game leaving, which is most likely the catalyst for this change.

Furthermore, give the visitors and lowly suburbanites something to do downtown instead of being sneered at by folks like you, and maybe we'd see some changes on game and event days. 

How about those aforementioned restaurants advertise their services to the crowds before and after said games and events?  Hand out flyers in the lot before and after games.  Put folks at the lot exits with sandwich boards, something?  Don't make them research things to do after their events- go get those customers!
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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 09:00:37 AM »
Um....they did just restripe for 2-way traffic and widen a portion of the road by a few feet...more often than not a road is resurfaced when these activities occur....for example, when they added a lane in each direction of I-10 (at the new Cecil Commerce Pkwy) they also resurfaced the existing lanes.

btw....this entire project, which includes all the new mast arm signals, new sidewalks, and the resurfacing/restriping cost around $3 million....that's pretty good for a one mile (+/-) stretch, especially when you consider that mas arms like that often cost $100,000 each!


So a road is repaved in order to have a clean slate for striping? Is that a requirement?

What portion was widened?

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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 09:09:50 AM »
They widened the bridge over Hogans Creek a little while ago.
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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2009, 09:22:49 AM »
That section had already been repaved.


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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2009, 09:30:47 AM »
And yet all of Springfield is one tangle-bang of pot hole after another. Good Grief.

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Re: City Re-Paves Bay Street, but Why?
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2009, 09:35:20 AM »
That section had already been repaved.

They also reduced the width of the sidewalk by a foot or two between Ocean and Liberty.
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