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Mayor Addresses Jacksonville's Financial Crisis
« on: June 25, 2009, 02:10:21 PM »
Mayor Addresses Jacksonville's Financial Crisis



Mayor John Peyton today outlined a three-part plan to address Jacksonville's financial crisis, ensuring that critical government services remain intact and that the city continues necessary investments to preserve the quality of life for Jacksonville's residents.

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Re: Mayor Addresses Jacksonville's Financial Crisis
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 02:32:52 PM »
you know, I can't help but feeling that this is just like GM.  They rain their company like idiots for so long, now we have to bail them out.  How is this any different?

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 04:31:09 PM »
hmmmm not sure how i feel about this one. it doesn't surprise me though. you will probably here something from the real estate lobby in the next 15 minutes about how this will destroy home sales.

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 04:52:14 PM »
Should we consider selling the football stadium to the Jags or the NFL?  Is there other city property we could sell to raise money?
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2009, 06:17:01 PM »
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you will probably here something from the real estate lobby in the next 15 minutes about how this will destroy home sales.

Bond traders are doing a great job of that already, rates were at 4.5% for a few weeks in March, then the groups who wanted a higher rate on their 10 year note pushed it where we are today above 5.6%. Rising rates will kill re-finances, for sure. But if you listen to the people on CNBC and the bankers, they all know that real estate is the key to getting out of this recession. 400,000 new homes in construction are basically flat lined, back in April 2007, it was reported that we had 2.1 million new homes for the prior month. So we have a long way to go to catch up.

Jacksonville needs real estate to pickup to put people back to work, and create the trickle-down effect that real estate has on all the other businesses.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

“This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level.”
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2009, 10:36:25 PM »
WJXT, CH4 is going to have the mayor on the morning show tomorrow morning. Their twitter didn't say what time though:
http://twitter.com/4TheMorningShow
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2009, 11:31:01 PM »
Forget the mayor, I want to see the Council on TV, they are the ones with the real power and they are the ones who will accept it or veto it.

The mayor could ask to paint the town in pink and lime green, but until the council signs off, I don't worry too much about what he says.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

“This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level.”
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

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Re: Mayor Addresses Jacksonville's Financial Crisis
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 09:36:27 PM »
Not listed in this summary is the eradication of the entire Historic Preservation division of the Planning Dept, as well as the Historic Preservation Commission.  The sole code/ordinance enforcement officer for Riverside Avondale has already been cut. So . . .  potentially, the gutting of any real protection for the city's historic districts.

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 10:00:59 PM »
umm...to my knowledge, there are several historic preservation planners in the Panningt Department...are yousaying that those positions are set to be cut?

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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 10:39:20 PM »
If this is true we need to organize a all volunteer Historic Preservation group and we need to know now so it can be in place prior to the paid division is cut

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Re: Mayor Addresses Jacksonville's Financial Crisis
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 12:59:19 AM »
All I know is that our property taxes magically shot up overnight (almost $1000 in one year, which also caused our insurance to make a similar leap) with our home value and now that the values have tanked across the board, they should go back down just as quick. But no, that won't happen.

So let's see:

- Closing two fire stations,
I'm not wild about this one.
- Closing five libraries,
I won't mind, I stopped going since downtown is pretty much a beautifully designed homeless daycare center.
- Close 10 community and senior centers,
Never used any of these, won't miss them
- Closing the Cecil Equestrian Center,
The what? Never heard of it.
- Eliminating the city’s residential recycling program,
Meh. We've started collecting and bagging our own cans for cash.
- Closing The Ritz Theater and LaVilla Museum,
If they can't sustain themsevles...
- Significantly reducing the city’s special events, and
We should do this already. Instead of dumping money into fireworks for the next 4th (this one was really sad looking), they should host something like a festival with food vendors and live concerts.
- Cutting children’s programs.
Don't/won't have kids, so I really don't care.

I guess it seems mean but we're already paying out the ass for services that we cannot use.

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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 02:46:15 AM »
  Is there other city property we could sell to raise money?
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City should have done this already. How much money are they sitting on, Landing, school board, court house, etc. This city leadership sucks, besides the fire stations, shut it down. Peyton and his lies and smoke screens. Closing libraries then go to the ones that are left open, same with community centers, Equestrian center, wtf, should have built an aquarium instead probably would have made money and added an attraction for the homeless camp they call downtown, cutting childrens programs, then enhance the ones left open and parents spend more time with your children. City events, they mostly suck anyway and I go out of town when I want to experience vibrancy. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think that these dummies can pull Jax in the right direction.

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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 08:51:28 AM »
Okay, now let's look DEEPER, you know BEYOND the end of your nose, to see what the TOTAL effects will be of these cuts.

 - Closing two fire stations,
Response times will rise in the affected areas. ISO rating could be negatively impacted, perhaps even citywide.  If that happens, you can expect an increase in homeowner insurance rates.

- Closing five libraries,

The DT branch is not included. Patrons will either drive further or do without.  Doing without means less exposure to learning for them, including children.  Also it would mean the loss of a positive leisure activity. If they drive further, then they pay more in gas and car maintenance, and we have more pollution and congestion.  Perhaps most significant of all is the waste of an expensive resource that taxpayers are already paying for (ie the buildings and the books). 

- Close 10 community and senior centers,

Center users see a reduction of their quality of life.  Less activity leads to health problems which increase medicare/medicaid expenses that we all pay.  Teens that previously spent idle time at community centers, now hang out on street corners.  Juvenile crime results.  Increased crime leads to Sheriff calling for more resources.  Being that Public Safety is the ultimate sacred cow, and no one likes having their car broke-in, the city obliges.   

- Closing the Cecil Equestrian Center,

The city saves the expense, but also losses the revenue from sales and bed taxes that events at the center generated. The businesses themselves also lose their revenue at a time when the economy is already suffering.  And again, a resource that taxpayers are already paying for goes unused, and likely neglected as well.     

- Eliminating the city’s residential recycling program,

Landfill will fill up sooner than it otherwise would have, because reyclable items will now go there.  Landfill's useful life is therefore shortened.

- Closing The Ritz Theater and LaVilla Museum,

Museums don't sustain themselves and never will. Not everything worthwhile is, or can be, a money making venture.  Let's close the Smithsonian as well. Another chapter of local history fades from memory. And again, another expensive resource that taxpayer's are paying for goes unutilized and neglected. 

- Significantly reducing the city’s special events, and

Loss of a leisure activity that brings vibracy to DT.  Adds to the image of Jax being a city with 'nothing to do'.

- Cutting children’s programs.

Children would receive less education, have fewer positive leisure activities, receive reduced medical attention. Those conditions lead to more crime, more expense (read: taxes) for juvenile justice, medicaid expenses, and the like.

A BETTER idea would be to find less impactful cuts that should be made, like the annual Chamber of Commerce junket to some great city that JAx will NOT learn anything from anyway.   

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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 09:29:54 AM »
You do not help lower a city's crime rate by taking away its community resources.

Things like libraries should be untouchable. I have always found it odd that in certain parts of the city there are virtually no bookstores - take away the libraries as well (and throw in the frustration of public transportation) and there will be nowhere to get a book. What kind of message does that send? Reading is not important? Especially in a city where literacy is a problem?  ???

It is ridiculous to hype something like the "Journey," a program which stresses community centers and reading programs as being detrimental to the future success of the city not losing another generation...and then turn around and sever those same programs without even blinking.

Cuts have to be made but these are not the kind the city needs. Surely Mr. Reading Rainbow himself realizes this? Maybe not.

If you cut programs like these alternatives will surely present themselves over time. Everyone knows what those alternatives lead to.