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Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« on: April 29, 2009, 04:00:00 AM »
Elements of Urbanism: South Beach



South Beach, also known as SoBe or simply The Beach, is one of the most popular sections of Miami Beach.  This district plays host to more than 150 clubs and other venues, most of which close at 5 am.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 06:41:23 AM »
my lambo's blue

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2009, 09:51:03 AM »
... I have a blue Murcielago but I prefer to sport the Enzo on club nights... 

:)


Some great shots there.  As mentioned the the article, the missing link in Miami Beach is a trolly line to connect to downtown.  A loop though South Beach with a leg north and a leg across the causeway would be ideal, IMO.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 12:16:43 PM »
South Beach is a good example of why it is hard to call Bay Street a true entertainment district.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009, 12:23:00 PM »
Not to disagree with you, Lunican, but I don't know of anyone who *is* calling Bay Street a true entertainment district. :)  At least not yet, anyway.

And South Beach has had decades to establish itself from literally nothing.  I'd like to say let's give Bay Street 10-20 years and talk about it again then.
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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 12:28:37 PM »
Hasn't the city given it the unofficial title of E(ntertainment)-Town? Or has that been dropped?

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2009, 12:34:24 PM »
E-Town? Oh lord, I hope not.
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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2009, 12:43:38 PM »
Yeah, here it is:

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The Jacksonville Economic Development Commission, which oversees downtown development, has dubbed the area "E-Town," with the "E" standing for entertainment.

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/081308/met_317984290.shtml

I suppose they are just trying to get something started.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2009, 01:30:44 PM »
In the 1950's and very early 1960's, my grandparents owned the Seacrest Apartments on the ocean at First and Ocean Ave.  They have now been incorporated into the development pictured below.  Their 50 foot wide piece is to the right of the complex in the street view.  The front facade remains for the art deco preservation while the rear was torn down and completely rebuilt.  Unfortunately, when they sold this area was little appreciated.

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Living South of Fifth
By Mary Mullaj

SoFi has become the trendiest neighborhood in Miami Beach, thanks in part to exclusive residential enclaves like the South of Fifth residences at 125 Ocean Drive.



Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2009, 02:57:46 PM »
Two words that can describe why Miami beach has been able to grow as and entertainment city and Jacksonville has not 'southern baptists'.  with the southern baptist church controlling downtown and the city government, not much will happen in Jacksonville to let an entertainment district come into being.  Not to mention Miami has a lot of topless tourists on there beach . . . how quick would the heads of the baptist church explode with women going topless at Jax beach?

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2009, 05:11:53 PM »
JaxNative you took the words right out of my mouth. I was going to ask, how many "South Beaches" are there that have a megachurch smack dab in the middle of their downtown district, halting development, and owning about 5 or 6 city blocks of property? I've been to Seattle, Portland, grew up in New York City and Orlando, Richmond, D.C., and a few other large cities. I don't really recall seeing their urban core's development revolve around the agendas of a church. It'd be one thing if they were paying taxes, but of course they are free and clear in that department.

When the government and the citizens of Jacksonville realize that Baptist is a bust for further development in our downtown maybe then we can progress. Until JSO and city officials stop sleeping with the church members, I don't think that is going to happen.

Although I don't like the church myself, there are plenty of people out there that do and I respect that entirely. But they are already getting off tax free. Then what do they do with that saved money? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they buy vacant lots, buildings, and parking lots in downtown, purchase those hard-to-comeby liquor licenses, and pay off police and city officials to keep everything in check and hush hush? Can't the city give them some incentive to move their church to a location not so close to the government buildings and the rest of downtown? Hell, I know I'd be willing to allocate tax dollars to get them their own private retreat outside of the urban core. I'm sure we could steal a few dollars we're supposedly "saving" from Trail Ridge and the new courthouse and throw it their way.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2009, 06:52:44 PM »
I'm jealous.  Nice City....once ran a business on Lincoln Road 10 years ago.  Off the chain totally!

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009, 01:26:51 AM »
I go atleast twice a year, fun, fun ,fun atleast we can drive and be there in 5 1/2 hrs. I guess thats the bright side for we will never have anything like that here in Jax,,it will never happen.

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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2009, 08:58:41 AM »
Look at those trendy urban bicycles. What, no beach cruisers?

South Beach makes me respect Jax Beach for it's laid back attitude.


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Re: Elements of Urbanism: South Beach
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2009, 11:22:33 AM »
South Beach makes me respect Jax Beach for it's laid back attitude.
That's pretty much the attitude of anyone on that side of The Ditch in Duval County.
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