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Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« on: March 03, 2009, 05:00:00 AM »
Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area



According to these rankings, traffic congestion in Jacksonville is a larger problem than it is in Orlando.

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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 07:18:26 AM »
Having lived in 4 of the top 20 areas... Jacksonville traffic is light...  8)
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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 07:32:21 AM »
W0W! Boston's Quincy line only made to #10! Takes more than one hr for less than 10 miles drive. Call me crazy cat but that is one of the reasons I moved to Jacksonville. I also remember taking the subway (not the sandwich) to work and it was so crowded that i can lift both of my feet in the air and still standing. LOL.

On a second thought, it appears to me people in Jacksonville are so spoiled. Haha.

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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 08:26:53 AM »
Besides a larger number of tollways, how is traffic lighter than Jax's? Hell, how are they not in the top 15?
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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 08:37:53 AM »
jacksonville has traffic?

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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2009, 08:58:06 AM »
Having driven every day in #4 for almost a decade, JAX is definitely light. One of the reasons I moved here.

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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 09:11:40 AM »
Seriously.  At least rush hour in Jacksonville is an actual hour (the way I go home at least), unlike the five-hour "rush hours" I experienced in DC.  Between the military, government, and civilian workforce, morning rush hour started before 5:00 each morning and ended about 10:00.  The afternoon rush started by 3:00 and didn't stop till after 8:00.  It would often take me over an hour to go from Tysons Corner to Bethesda or Arlington, a trip of less than 10 miles.

Based on my experiences, the traffic problem in Orlando seems to be concentrated along I-4 between downtown and the theme parks.  That could explain why we associate Orlando with such horrible traffic despite its relative low ranking on this list.

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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2009, 09:23:18 AM »
Orlando is pretty easy to get around if you get off the interstate and learn the local streets.  One thing to point out is that the places ahead (and Orlando) are multiple times larger Jacksonville.  In the top 35, excluding Jax most of the names listed are more than twice the size of Jacksonville.  Our true peers like Louisville, Hartford, New Orleans and Oklahoma City are further down on the list. 

While rush hour may not be as harsh as it is in LA, NYC, Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Dallas and Miami (all have over 5 million residents, we have 1.3 million), we do have a problem that can only be addressed by implementing viable mass transit solutions.
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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 09:25:00 AM »
Having extensive driving experience in both #33 and #35, Jacksonville seems misplaced at #34 to me, as I've always found the traffic to be much much lighter.

In most of these bad traffic cities there are locations where you can literally get stuck on the freeway for hours, for no apparent reason. Jax doesn't really have that yet.

Although I tend to avoid the few bad spots for Jax traffic (like Blanding). I suppose we have a couple awful spots that drag the metro down.

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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 09:30:36 AM »
My problem with Orlando streets are the speed limits are stupidly low. A major street, like Bumby, is 25mph in a residential area because people bitched too much. Many more streets are like that. Yet, it connects downtown to Curry Ford. However, do not get me started on the insanely bumpy brick streets. I like brick, but Orlando, smooth the crap out.

OKC, I'm surprised. It has an incredible street grid of N-S named avenues and E-W numbered streets, and is easy to get around. A good deal of our problem with traffic can be attributed to our most valuable asset, the river. Now, on the Southside, that is a different case, poor planning and no grid what so ever.
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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 09:45:08 AM »
Although I tend to avoid the few bad spots for Jax traffic (like Blanding). I suppose we have a couple awful spots that drag the metro down.

Sometimes we can get to focused on the interstates when it comes to congestion.  I would not be suprised if it is the corridors like Blanding, Southside, Beach, Baymeadows, San Jose, JTB and limited river crossings that combine to drag the metro down.
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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 09:59:57 AM »
During rush hour, how long does it take to get from downtown to Jax Beach?

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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 12:30:58 PM »
So long as Blanding Blvd stays the way it is, traffic will never improve over here. At least on San Jose they  made some changes in the past several years and it did help, but every tight spot on any corridor can be directly related to the Interstate.
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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2009, 12:58:04 PM »
Well count me in as having lived in: 1, 5, 6, 11, 14, 26, 34, 35, 40, 71, 100

People tend to moan about Jacksonville traffic delays of 30 minutes to an hour here and I have to laugh. I remember heading Westbound into Los Angeles from San Berdoo one sunny afternoon on I-10. Big Mistake, Big, HUGE! As we approached East LA the freeway which was already creeping along, came to a halt. FIVE HOURS LATER everyone around the car knew everyone else... We hadn't moved an inch. When it finally moved a bit I was able to head up the Pasadena to the Foothill Freeways and escape. Total distance maybe 100 miles. Total time about 14 hours. PRICELESS.

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Except for an almost COMPLETE lack of mass transit I don't understand OKC being on this either... NEVER a traffic jam. Now as for Orlando being behind us? HUMBUG! The only thing that might account for that is the disconnect caused by the river, otherwise Orlando has far fewer arterial roads to divert the traffic.




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Re: Jacksonville 34th Most Congested Metro Area
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2009, 01:14:23 PM »
Sometimes we can get to focused on the interstates when it comes to congestion.  I would not be suprised if it is the corridors like Blanding, Southside, Beach, Baymeadows, San Jose, JTB and limited river crossings that combine to drag the metro down.

Indeed, and I shudder to think what some of those corridors will look like once the Southside truly becomes built-out. Only 3 major arterials to the beaches, and only one river-crossing between Downtown and Green Cove. Yikes.

There are still a couple of right-of-way corridors that could impose a little more connectivity. However, so many of them were gobbled up for subdivisions over the past 15 years, I think the Southside might be beyond hope once it reaches true built-out. Imagine once all those woods finally get filled-in PLUS development in the swamps South of JTB.