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Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« on: February 09, 2009, 05:00:00 AM »
Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List



Although rail is clearly not a priority to the Peyton administration, the following projects ended up on Jacksonville's Federal Stimulus List.

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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 05:31:14 AM »
i see the court house is listed there as "shelf ready" haha.
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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 08:31:37 AM »
Ugh.  This just makes me sick.  All across America everyone has their hand out.  What's next?  We all just stay at home, cash our welfare checks, hop into our SUV's (that we bought at a government sponsored reduced price to help stimulate the auto industry) and ride on down to the local Ben & Jerry's for a pint of Chubby Hubby?!  When is America going to wake up!  When are everyday average citizens going to start taking responsibility for their own lives, their own actions and their own destinies and get off their collective asses and DO SOMETHING to make this country better instead of allowing us to further slip under the thumb of socialist rule!?  I get up each morning, as most of us do, I go to work and I work hard to "bring home the bacon".  I pay my taxes and I obey the law (mostly).  I don't need the governement (nor do I want them) to take care of me.  What I need, what we all need, is for government to get the hell out of our way and let the Free Market Economy do what it does best. *middle finger in the air to the government* 
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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2009, 09:12:43 AM »
Despite the obviously missing mass transit improvements, there are some very important items on that list including all of the electrical grid infrastructure upgrades, water reclamation, water treatment, wastewater treatment, continued septic phaseout, all 3 airport capital projects and improvements, drainage improvements, etc. 

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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2009, 09:35:11 AM »
There are some decent items on the list.  However, a part of me does not wish to see the city get bailed out for bad planning (ex. the courthouse).  Hopefully, the feds will take a deep look into all requests nationwide and slash the pork.
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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2009, 10:14:46 AM »
Lake, this "bailout" is nothing BUT pork.  and it's going to "pork" us all right in the ass. :P

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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2009, 10:44:14 AM »
I thought this whole stimulus package was supposed to put America back to work... Not just paint the barn, rather build a new barn with a complete milk plant, thus the minions will be employed by the State Baby Milk Factory, much to the delight of the Czar.

Does Peyton and Company not realize that a bucket of paint, a drainage ditch, or another mile of pavement, do not represent long term employment for anyone. The fact is these type of projects should be completely stripped from the Great Leaders plan, which will leave Jacksonville with NOTHING!!

Talk about your red headed step child, big whoopee Comrade Peyton, well done son.


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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2009, 10:52:10 AM »
OCK, actually if you look at the unfortunate history of Jacksonville as a whole, another mile of pavement would take about 10 years to construct....1 mile of drainage...hmmm, another 3-5 years.  Any significant road project that get's off the ground in this city takes an average of 20-30 years to complete.  so, technically, it WOULD create long term jobs...other than that small technicality I agree with you 100%.   :-\ 

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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2009, 01:51:38 PM »
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When is America going to wake up!  When are everyday average citizens going to start taking responsibility for their own lives, their own actions and their own destinies and get off their collective asses and DO SOMETHING to make this country better instead of allowing us to further slip under the thumb of socialist rule!? 

Never (in our lifetime). Personal responsibility is dead. It will take a total collapse of the current system to undo what has been done. Unfortunately for you and I it decays slowly, but is slow to fail.

As more power is shifted to those who need the most from the government you can expect more to be demanded from the government. Votes are being purchased with welfare checks. It's funny how outraged everyone gets at how  these corporations are spending taxpayer money, but where is the outrage at the tax payer money wasted by welfare recipients each year? Can I now badger someone after they receive their welfare check get in their 35k Lexus go to their tax payer subsidized housing then to the store where they buy milk and cheese on one tax payer provided check and cigarettes and beer on another, then go out clubbing in $200 stilettos and get STD treatment and abortion and tax payer subsidized clinic ... ETC ETC?

I'm not saying that either abuse is warranted. But one has been going on much longer with much more waste.

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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2009, 02:14:32 PM »
The people who are angered more by corprate welfare than public do so for the same reason you are more afraid of drowding in the ocean than your tub. For practical purposes corprate welfare just has more impact on our tax dollars.
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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2009, 02:15:58 PM »
146K for Cecil?

REALLY Jacksonville? I'm so glad we killed any chance of the Navy coming back.

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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2009, 02:37:25 PM »
The people who are angered more by corprate welfare than public do so for the same reason you are more afraid of drowding in the ocean than your tub. For practical purposes corprate welfare just has more impact on our tax dollars.

The people who are angered more by corporate welfare are people who don't realize that it's corporations that create jobs. Not only that, but they create life saving drugs, TV's, computers, and ship these goods to the store for the people with the welfare checks to buy.

Welfare is broken. I agree that it's criminal for someone to lose benefits for getting a job and trying to better themselves. it's more criminal for someone to expect benefits for nothing.

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2009, 02:58:14 PM »
JT, you have every reason to be outraged.  All of us should be.  I still believe in the free market economy and it's capacity to succeed, as long as government will get the hell out of the way.  I won't even start in on our own City Leaders and their complete ineptitude. 
Jeffrey, have you ever looked at your paycheck and noticed just how much you pay to welfare each year?  And then go to your grocery store and see what JT is talking about.  Or drive out to "that side of town" and see all the Lexus, SUV's, HUmmers, etc parked in front of the section 8 housing.  It's an outrage.  The government limits benefits for women on welfare only up to child #12.  TWELVE CHILDREN WE'RE PAYING FOR!  The system has always been broken and will always be broken.  It's time to get rid of the system.  And that goes for all these big businesses that keep running shady deal after shady deal.  If they can't run a clean business and still make money, then they don't need to be in business.  Plain and simple.  I don't care how many people lose their jobs because of it.  When you continue to bail people out for being crooked it creates a whole generation of people (like we have right now) with no sense of responsibility and no sense of consequence to their actions.  If there were no bailout, i assure you, the businesses of the world would think twice about cooking their books, or acting in some way that would jeopardize their financial future.  Instead we just pump more money into bad business thinking it will change things.  Bullshit.  FOUL!!  It simply will not work and we will be paying for it for the rest of our lives and we'll be leaving our children a mountain of debt like nothing the world has ever seen.
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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2009, 03:18:50 PM »
I don't think you are reading me right I am not being naive and saying that public welfare isn't filled with fraud. I would warn you not to be naive and think corporate welfare is all on the up and up they likewise take all they can get with the same desires as those who buy expensive cars then use food stamps. They spend millions on corporate excess then take public money.  The truth is they are both red tape bloated designed to hide the truth ways to buy votes and get favors.  I would be happy to try and find numbers if there is any doubt which hole in the boat is bigger.
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Re: Jacksonville's Official Federal Stimulus List
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2009, 03:21:31 PM »
I do not want to pay for anyone's irresponsibility but if I have to pick one the 12 kids over the Merrill CEO's million dollar office decorating.
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