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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2024, 10:31:12 PM »
Seeing as how my original post seems to have disappeared I'll reiterate my original sentiments. 1). America is equally racist and stupid. 2). We have'nt improved as much as we'd like to imagine in the nearly 250 years since the ink on The Declaration of Independence was dry. 3). A common criminal won the election at the expense of our common national interest and ignorance was mostly the cause. Good luck to you all.

We had an issue with a spam bot and I think I inadvertently deleted your comment while dealing with that. My apologies, but I reiterate my stance above that it never makes sense to belittle your fellow voters.
Well I don't think it makes sense to elect people who bankrupt casinos based on their economic policies but here we are.

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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2024, 08:36:14 AM »
If Pete Hegseth's nomination gets pulled, DeSatan may be the next in line. Wouldn't be hard to see Lara Trump getting the Senate nod to replace Rubio either.
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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2024, 12:27:52 PM »
Is there not some bad blood, really bad blood, between Trump's Chief of Staff and Desantis?  Probably would not matter though as kumbaya is probably not a requirement and/or the belief that everyone will just fall in line.

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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2025, 01:15:15 PM »
Jump starting this thread again as it has finally arrived... Trump 2.0.

Immigration, ICE and military raids, tariffs, 1/6 pardons, taxes, conquering Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal, renaming the Gulf of Mexico and Mount Denali, pursuing perceived enemies, chastising LGBTQ's, rolling back DEI, supporting carbon and undermining green energy and electric vehicles, ignoring climate change, dissing vaccines and science, pulling support from NATO, Taiwan, Ukraine and other allies, promoting himself and his businesses, attacking the media, paling around with fellow billionaires, rehashing 2020 election, unusual cabinet and admin picks, crypto worlds, etc.

Should give this thread a lot to discuss over the next 4 years starting now ;D.
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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2025, 01:39:03 PM »
Not a fan of the antics but I'm all for the Greenland play. That one actually seems feasible to a degree.

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« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2025, 03:56:06 PM »
If we don't see $2 gas, $2 eggs, and our electric bills cut in half by the end of February, this administration will be an epic failure.

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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2025, 06:12:33 PM »
Once upon a time I was a E Musk fan... still a SpaceX cheerleader but his little Nazi salute today had me doing a "Wtf did I just see?"  Gonna be a interesting 4 years...
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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2025, 07:19:43 PM »
I can't wait until January, 2029.  The next 4 years is going to be embarassing.
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« Reply #53 on: Yesterday at 06:25:44 AM »
Not a fan of the antics but I'm all for the Greenland play. That one actually seems feasible to a degree.

Didn't we go to war with Iraq because they invaded Kuwait? Yeah we did.

Trump wants to exploit Greenland for his own personal gain. Greenland wants independence not a substitute for Denmark. 
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« Reply #54 on: Yesterday at 08:23:38 AM »
Not a fan of the antics but I'm all for the Greenland play. That one actually seems feasible to a degree.

Didn't we go to war with Iraq because they invaded Kuwait? Yeah we did.

Trump wants to exploit Greenland for his own personal gain. Greenland wants independence not a substitute for Denmark.

Lol, yeah lets equate Kuwait to Greenland... a country with more than 3M people & a legitimate economy vs. an island with 60k residents & the GDP of Alabama. The entire Greenland move is a long-term play... we get most of our rare earth minerals from the east. You know - the stuff that powers quite literally everything. Greenland happens to sit on massive deposits. Add to that oil/gas, EEZ, & shipping routes. Add on that zero ethnic or national claim to Greenland. Greenland was/is a colony.

Greenland would collapse without external support. Not even a debate.

Now, explain how a nearly 80 year old Trump benefits from this?

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2019-08-16/Graphics-Why-all-eyes-are-on-China-s-rare-earths-JcAndGM6Ri/index.html
https://www.economy.com/greenland/indicators#:~:text=Greenland's%20economy%20depends%20on%20exports,the%20economy%20to%20price%20fluctuations.
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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #55 on: Yesterday at 08:59:01 AM »
As someone who appreciates democracy, one of the scariest things I've ever seen in my life is Elon Musk (X), Mark Zuckerberg (Meta), Jeff Bezos (Amazon), Sundar Pichai (Google), and Tim Cook (Apple) all buddying up in a church with Trump for his inauguration. Without exaggeration, this might be the most powerful group of men ever assembled in American history. Collectively, they have obscene troves of data on nearly 100% of voting Americans, control what we see when we search the web, control the algorithms that deliver news to our feeds, control the way that we shop, control the security of our communications, and know who we're friends with and what circles we keep. And they're climbing over each other to curry his favor. The potential for abuse here is nearly unprecedented.

You don't want to overreact and say that the country is going to go all Handmaid's Tale, but you look at the protections that Trump is rolling back on day one, and you look at the pardons he's making, and look at some of the unhinged misogynistic shit that Zuckerberg is suddenly and openly saying about Facebook being ruined by feminine energy, and look at the type of behaviors your average vote was willing to overlook or openly endorse in the election - I don't know. Throw in the fact that less than 1% of the population is controlling 35% of the wealth in America, and the fact that the bottom 50% of Americans are fighting for a shocking 1.5% of the wealth - it's not painting a great picture of where we're headed.

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« Reply #56 on: Yesterday at 09:20:38 AM »
The pendulum is swinging back. In 2020, the Democrats were outwardly supported by: the Obamas, the Pelosi Dynasty, Soros, Zuck (self-admitted), Twitter (FBI), Pichai & Tim Cook (essentially every form of media other than Fox).

I doubt Pichai & Cook are really on his team. Elon is the wild card for sure.

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« Reply #57 on: Yesterday at 10:33:34 AM »
I doubt Pichai & Cook are really on his team.

Totally agree that neither dude screams Team Trump, but also think that China provides a good example of what both companies are willing to acquiesce to in terms of censorship and control in the name of profit.

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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #58 on: Yesterday at 11:29:20 AM »
Not a fan of the antics but I'm all for the Greenland play. That one actually seems feasible to a degree.

Didn't we go to war with Iraq because they invaded Kuwait? Yeah we did.

Trump wants to exploit Greenland for his own personal gain. Greenland wants independence not a substitute for Denmark.

Lol, yeah lets equate Kuwait to Greenland... a country with more than 3M people & a legitimate economy vs. an island with 60k residents & the GDP of Alabama. The entire Greenland move is a long-term play... we get most of our rare earth minerals from the east. You know - the stuff that powers quite literally everything. Greenland happens to sit on massive deposits. Add to that oil/gas, EEZ, & shipping routes. Add on that zero ethnic or national claim to Greenland. Greenland was/is a colony.



Now, explain how a nearly 80 year old Trump benefits from this?

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2019-08-16/Graphics-Why-all-eyes-are-on-China-s-rare-earths-JcAndGM6Ri/index.html
https://www.economy.com/greenland/indicators#:~:text=Greenland's%20economy%20depends%20on%20exports,the%20economy%20to%20price%20fluctuations.

There is ZERO difference MORALLY or POLITICALLY between Greenland and Kuwait. We have no more right to take control of it any more than Iraq had a right to Kuwait. We would lose our moral authority if we did.  How could we point to Russia about Ukraine if we are doing the same thing with Greenland.   

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Greenland would collapse without external support. Not even a debate.


As part of Denmark, they have NATO protection. If they became independent they could join NATO also.   

We can and maybe should augment of defense of Greenland and/or trade relations, but taking over from Denmark would be wrong on every level. 
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Re: Trump Presidency #2
« Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 11:48:57 AM »
The pendulum is swinging back. In 2020, the Democrats were outwardly supported by: the Obamas, the Pelosi Dynasty, Soros, Zuck (self-admitted), Twitter (FBI), Pichai & Tim Cook (essentially every form of media other than Fox).

I doubt Pichai & Cook are really on his team. Elon is the wild card for sure.

There is no comparison to 2020.  Musk alone gave nearly $300 million to Trump's campaign. Soros is a bit player compared to that or what the Koch brothers or Adelson have given. Pelosi is a Speaker of the House, of course she donated to a D candidate. What few safeguards that use to be in place are gone now (Thanks, John Roberts!!).  We basically have a pay to play government. Much of it hidden from the public too.

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