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Re: Amtrak's Vision: Jacksonville/Orlando/Tampa
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2021, 08:21:11 AM »
Amtrak’s talking to FDOT now…

https://twitter.com/lmower3/status/1466430084169011201?s=21

Quote from: Lawrence Mower
Amtrak is in preliminary talks with the Florida DOT to "expand" services in Florida, @FDOT_Secretary told lawmakers yesterday.

FDOT doesn't know yet what Amtrak has in mind. It currently operates lines from Jax to Tampa/Orlando/Miami.

Quote from: Lawrence Mower
Amtrak is flush with money from the recent infrastructure bill, and has money to spend in Florida, Thibault said.

I wonder how we get some Jax people into those conversations.

Interestingly, a lot of the talk in the replies is about restoring the line Amtrak marked as “suspended,” from Jacksonville west towards New Orleans. I don’t think the state support is there for anything to come if it (would likely require FDOT acquiring the line, making substantial improvements, and adding signaling), but food for thought.

Of course here’s an article from just two weeks ago pointing out those very same challenges, as well as the potential cost (although I think for that price they’re essentially building it to top-notch standards as opposed to enough to start service):

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/473904-north-florida-officials-push-for-research-into-2-billion-rail-restoration/
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Re: Amtrak's Vision: Jacksonville/Orlando/Tampa
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2021, 01:51:12 PM »
Amtrak’s talking to FDOT now…

https://twitter.com/lmower3/status/1466430084169011201?s=21

Quote from: Lawrence Mower
Amtrak is in preliminary talks with the Florida DOT to "expand" services in Florida, @FDOT_Secretary told lawmakers yesterday.

FDOT doesn't know yet what Amtrak has in mind. It currently operates lines from Jax to Tampa/Orlando/Miami.

Quote from: Lawrence Mower
Amtrak is flush with money from the recent infrastructure bill, and has money to spend in Florida, Thibault said.

I wonder how we get some Jax people into those conversations.

Good start! I was fearful politics between the governor and Biden would screw us over, like the high speed rail thing between Obama and Scott.

Jax entities like FDOT D2, COJ, NFTPO, JTA, etc. are aware but it may not be their priority at the moment. At some point there will have to be coordination and involvement. One of the best things to do right now is for public pressure being applied to them, so that this becomes a higher local priority.  That pressure should include moving the train station back downtown, getting a new stop or two in outlying counties and fighting for service times that align with local commuter peak times.
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Re: Amtrak's Vision: Jacksonville/Orlando/Tampa
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2021, 04:51:13 PM »
Good start! I was fearful politics between the governor and Biden would screw us over, like the high speed rail thing between Obama and Scott.

Obviously the talks are only preliminary right now, but here's to hoping.

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Jax entities like FDOT D2, COJ, NFTPO, JTA, etc. are aware but it may not be their priority at the moment. At some point there will have to be coordination and involvement. One of the best things to do right now is for public pressure being applied to them, so that this becomes a higher local priority.  That pressure should include moving the train station back downtown, getting a new stop or two in outlying counties and fighting for service times that align with local commuter peak times.

There must be some way to get people interested in putting the pressure on, I'm not sure what the best way to get that message out there is.
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Re: Amtrak's Vision: Jacksonville/Orlando/Tampa
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2022, 06:31:04 PM »
Amtrak has made updates to their proposed plan for Florida, as given in a presentation to the Florida MPO Advisory Council last month: https://mpoac.cutr.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Presentation-MPOAC-FRC-PassRailWorkshop-20220427.pdf

Some interesting things:



A new additional service between Sanford and Tampa, with four round trips, as well as the extension of the Miami-Orlando service to Sanford. Wonder if this could mean removing requirements to have a car for the Auto Train.



A proposal, similar to the ones from the early 2010s, to reroute the Silver Meteor onto the Florida East Coast Railway and then back onto the state-owned corridor in South Florida. Unclear how this would interface with Brightline, or how stations north of Brightline’s current improvements would be handled.

Best for last…



A map of proposed stations that includes Miami’s airport Intermodal Center, an “Airport” station (my guess, more likely the SunRail airport transfer station that Brightline and Orlando-area officials have been discussing for a few weeks now with their Sunshine Corridor Program), and very interestingly, stations in Orange Park and what appears to be downtown Jacksonville. Sounds like the right people got in a room with Amtrak.

Surprise bonus:



A map of “future options” that include the Gulf Coast corridor, St. Augustine and Palatka, an extension of SunRail to Tampa and Daytona Beach, as well as a web of regional lines extending from the Tampa Bay Area. Very interesting all around.
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Re: Amtrak's Vision: Jacksonville/Orlando/Tampa
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2022, 08:43:18 AM »
I like the concepts - especially with more intra-state trains. It kills me that when I go to Lakeland for work somewhat frequently my car is the only option. The once a day train timing (especially back from Lakeland to here) is awful.

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Re: Amtrak's Vision: Jacksonville/Orlando/Tampa
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2022, 08:17:28 PM »


I'm fine with the concepts. They've been talked about for years, so I'm hoping these entities can put their money where their mouths are at and bring these routes into reality, sooner rather than later. Of interesting note, it appears there are two proposed stations in our region. Downtown and Orange Park.....something we've been advocating for years. Also, this plan appears to keep the station in Northwest Jacksonville as well.
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