Author Topic: Rutherford Votes Against Removal of Confederate Statues in the Capitol  (Read 2283 times)

jaxlongtimer

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More proof of Rutherford's move deep into Trump territory.  67 Republicans in the House supported this bill including their leader, Kevin McCarthy.

Reason given for voting against it by GOP'ers:

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...A number of GOP representatives condemned the move as "cancel culture" and Democrats pushing Critical Race Theory... 

https://www.newsweek.com/confederate-statues-full-list-house-republicans-voted-against-removing-1605439
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In this instance... Rutherford is wrong. Does this make him a nazi too??
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Rutherford clearly cannot step out of his own 'shoes' to see a different perspective. Historical perspective doesn't seem to move him either. Those are not things you want to see in a LEO. It's a really bad trait to have in a Congressman too. There are certainly better choices available but let's not kid ourselves that he will be replaced anytime soon.   
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Fair enough. Soooo… not a nazi?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

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He's not a Nazi, just a far right insurrectionist.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

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People really need to quit with this calling everyone a Nazi bullshit.  Anyone who thinks Trump's 20th century contemporary is Hitler should really get a history lesson in who Herbert Hoover was.  Trump is the 21st century version of Hebert Hoover, a populous one-term president who happen to be in office when the Great Depression took hold of the country.  Even MAGA is a direct rip-off of Hoover's "Chicken in every Pot".  You folks really overestimate how much history will look back at Trump.

The idea that we are comparing a one-term president to the guy who pulled off the 'Night of Long Knives' is just idiotic.

Also, Joe Biden has already admitted an actual insurrection is going to require some f-15's and Nukes, we can drop the that term while we are at it.

 

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^Rutherford's insurrection was his vote not to certify the electoral votes from states. In addition to being based on demonstrated lies, it's unconstitutional and not something Congress is authorized to do. That action is a worse insurrection than the actual insurrection it helped inspire.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

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Not diving into… whatever this is, but thought I'd note that someone just declared against Rutherford today.

https://alrobertsonfl.com
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Still seems like we are conflating grandstanding with an insurrection.  Nothing was ever going to come of their political stunt.

All that said, Rutherford and Gaetz are an embarrassment to our state. 

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Still seems like we are conflating grandstanding with an insurrection.  Nothing was ever going to come of their political stunt.

All that said, Rutherford and Gaetz are an embarrassment to our state.

Most of the House Republicans joined in the unconstitutional action. If they were in the majority they could have disrupted the entire election. Not to mention the fact that it spread lies that led a crowd of their followers to storm the capitol. It's a very scary precedent, especially coming from someone like Rutherford who used to have a reputation as a law and order guy. If anything, it's been underplayed.
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Re: Rutherford Votes Against Removal of Confederate Statues in the Capitol
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2022, 08:46:52 PM »
Rutherford voted against the 2 infrastructure bills that would have provided up to $550 billion to fight climate change and build resiliency even though 55% of 229 critical structures in his district are at risk of rising seas.  You know if Trump, instead of Biden, had proposed the same bills he would have likely voted for them.  Putting politics over his district?

Today, officials said that they now expect the oceans to rise 10 to 12 inches in only the next 30 years.

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These lawmakers' districts are at highest risk of flooding. Here's where they stand on the climate crisis.

(CNN)UN scientists were unequivocal in a landmark report published this summer: Human-caused climate change is intensifying extreme weather events. No region is spared from extreme weather, but America's coasts are overwhelmingly at risk to flooding caused by rising seas, stronger hurricanes and torrential rain.

As the climate crisis accelerates, extreme flooding threatens more critical infrastructure in the United States. A recent analysis found 25% of all critical infrastructure in the US -- things like hospitals, police stations and power plants -- is at risk of being rendered inoperable due to flooding.

But the threat is not distributed evenly, nor is it being approached everywhere with the urgency scientists implore.

Using new flood risk data from First Street Foundation, a nonprofit research group, CNN ranked the top 10 congressional districts where critical infrastructure is most at-risk to flooding. Six out of 10 of the House lawmakers that represent those districts voted against the recently signed bipartisan infrastructure law, which contains around $50 billion to help make particularly vulnerable communities more resilient to climate disasters like extreme flooding.

Those same six lawmakers also voted against President Joe Biden's Build Back Better plan, which has yet to pass the Senate and includes more than $500 billion in climate and green energy provisions. If passed, it would be the largest legislative climate investment in US history.

The votes were split along party lines, with Democrats voting in favor of the bills and Republicans voting against. Nine of the lawmakers represent low-lying coastal areas in Louisiana, Florida and Texas. One of the lawmakers represents a district in California at-risk to flooding from atmospheric rivers.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/politics/congress-flood-risk-infrastructure-climate/index.html

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Re: Rutherford Votes Against Removal of Confederate Statues in the Capitol
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2022, 08:56:42 PM »

"All that said, Rutherford and Gaetz are an embarrassment to our state."

Please add Rick Scott and Marco Rubio to that very short list.  Oh what they hey,  Ron DeSantis too!

I don't think folks would mind so much if the Repubs put up some brilliant individuals, but these guys are truly awful hacks.


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You would think a former sheriff would support a VERY minimal standard for regulating who gets guns that was proposed on a bipartisan basis.

But, not John Rutherford.... continuing to cater to the extreme right wing and giving the finger to everyone else.

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....The Senate approved the measure Thursday by 65-33. Fifteen Republicans — a remarkably high number for a party that has derailed gun curbs for years — joined all 50 Democrats, including their two independent allies, in approving the bill. The Democratic-led House chamber approved the election-year legislation on a mostly party-line 234-193 vote, with 14 Republicans joining Democrats. The only Florida Republican House member to vote in favor of the bill was Miami U.S. Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar.....

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2022/06/25/florida-republicans-congress-largely-opposed-landmark-gun-safety-bill/7725341001/

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He has to burnish his Trumpian bona fides before the next election.

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Nate Monroe lashes into Rutherford after he votes to deny same sex marriages and naming a Federal courthouse after the first Black judge to server on Florida's Supreme Court.  Be sure to read do the final conclusion  ;D :
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Nate Monroe: Meet U.S. Rep. John Rutherford, Northeast Florida's cruelest congressman

It's difficult to imagine the former Duval sheriff set out to deliberately ruin his reputation for moderation and good sense, yet there's little more he could have done in his time there to have more thoroughly vaporized it. The once-mainstream Jacksonville Republican — a community leader no mayor of either party could boss around — has become a traitorous crank, an alleged scofflaw, a cog who simply does what he's told.

He has also become needlessly, inexplicably cruel....

....Jacksonville was one of the last large American cities to embrace gay rights, but when it did so in 2017 — by expanding an anti-discrimination ordinance to include LGBT people — it was right-of-center business leaders and a Republican-controlled City Council that dragged the city there.

The issue is, in other words, not controversial in Rutherford's hometown.

More surprising than Rutherford's opposition was that several of his Republican colleagues in Florida's delegation — including the very North Florida members who encircle Rutherford's own district and represent deeply conservative, rural areas — supported the Respect for Marriage Act. They could apparently see what Rutherford could not: this is about simple decency.

It was perhaps the first time in his disgraceful congressional career Rutherford managed to distinguish himself from the herd: he's the biggest jerk of them all.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/columns/nate-monroe/2022/07/20/meet-john-rutherford-north-floridas-cruelest-congressman-no-support-for-bipartisan-same-sex-marriage/10084870002/