Author Topic: MOSH weighs relocating museum from its Southbank site in downtown Jacksonville  (Read 13975 times)

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Agreed that various groups should partner on this and there are many good options. JU's Marine Science Institute would also be a good partner. A REALLY big opportunity is to get OCEARCH to relocate their fleet to the site and create and exhibit. I believe they are currently at Mayport Village. They have a global following and might actually pull some people off I-95.

I don't know if this has changed since Vystar took over the building, but I know OCEARCH was using some space in the JU facilities downtown last year or in 2018. 
I agree that they would be another great partner to engage along with JU.  The water taxi could do quarterly science treks between MOSH, JU, the Zoo and exchange island if that were to be built out.  Could be an overnight thing and that would be an awesome program.  MOSH was already within a 2 minute walk of the water, but with the clean slate that this new location provides, I think MOSH and COJ need to get this right as far as building an educational hub that incorporates our many local science organizations and engage one of the areas greatest resources, the river, as much as possible.

Starting to feel like those Baltimore guys, so I'll calm down for now..

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The Current MoCA space would make for a nice boutique hotel for the library and Sweet Pete's which often host weddings and other events.

MOCA cafe is closing after today :(

Not enough foot traffic with the pandemic.

Just grabbed lunch from there a few minutes ago.

Going to miss that Sweet Potato Bisque.

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Agreed that various groups should partner on this and there are many good options. JU's Marine Science Institute would also be a good partner. A REALLY big opportunity is to get OCEARCH to relocate their fleet to the site and create and exhibit. I believe they are currently at Mayport Village. They have a global following and might actually pull some people off I-95.

I don't know if this has changed since Vystar took over the building, but I know OCEARCH was using some space in the JU facilities downtown last year or in 2018. 
I agree that they would be another great partner to engage along with JU.  The water taxi could do quarterly science treks between MOSH, JU, the Zoo and exchange island if that were to be built out.  Could be an overnight thing and that would be an awesome program.  MOSH was already within a 2 minute walk of the water, but with the clean slate that this new location provides, I think MOSH and COJ need to get this right as far as building an educational hub that incorporates our many local science organizations and engage one of the areas greatest resources, the river, as much as possible.

Starting to feel like those Baltimore guys, so I'll calm down for now..

Those Baltimore guys wish they had ideas like this.

It truly is a no brainer to try to pull all of these entities together, and also do something at Exchange Island.

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Still committed. ~4 years to open, apparently.

MOSH CEO hopes to open new museum in late 2024

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/mosh-ceo-hopes-open-up-new-museum-late-2024/CDLVQTCGI5CRNEHSHUVSHJQKSM/
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I doubt it. Lets give them a full year to get a design together, gain DDRB approval, get through permitting, etc. (highly unrealistic), then 24 to 36 months to construct. You're right at late 2024 already. Now, are they going to build this on a part of the Shipyards that is contaminated? How long would that clean up take? At Lot J, they were estimating as much as three years for the contamination cleanup part alone. If the same timeframe were applied to the Shipyards, then we're looking closer to 2027 than 2024.
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I doubt it. Lets give them a full year to get a design together, gain DDRB approval, get through permitting, etc. (highly unrealistic), then 24 to 36 months to construct. You're right at late 2024 already. Now, are they going to build this on a part of the Shipyards that is contaminated? How long would that clean up take? At Lot J, they were estimating as much as three years for the contamination cleanup part alone. If the same timeframe were applied to the Shipyards, then we're looking closer to 2027 than 2024.

The biggest issue is funding.  Based on the below article, it appears they have raised $7.5 million (30% raised of $25 million from private donors) of the $85+ million expected project costs (likely not counting the costs of any remediation).  Of the $7.5 million, $5 million came from Khan leaving $2.5 million from other private donors.  I am not sure how many more multi-million gifts they can count on but they will need a few to get there in time.

While I wish them well, given COVID's impact on both private and Federal/State/City finances, I am wondering how they will pull this off in time to open in 2024, on top of the issues Lake highlights.  Maybe Curry can redirect some of that $233 million for Lot J to this project :).

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...High on the list of things that have to happen before any move is fundraising. In 2019, the museum released its ambitious MOSH 2.0 plan, which called for raising $20-$25 million from private sources to renovate the existing Southbank campus and tie it in with the adjacent Friendship Fountain. That plan was scrapped in October in favor of building a new facility across the river.

Fafard said MOSH has raised about 30 percent of that money. Much of it was donated for the old MOSH 2.0 plan, but Fafard said those donors have been supportive of MOSH Genesis, the plan for a new museum....

....Shad Khan, owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars, donated $5 million to the project in November after the planned move was announced. Khan has plans to develop several parcels of land near the new museum site.

The price tag for the new facility will be around $85 million. Fafard said MOSH is looking at city, state and federal grants to cover the bulk of the construction expense....

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/entertainment/arts/2021/01/21/mosh-jacksonville-museum-moving-ahead-northbank-relocation-plan/4220894001/
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Friendship Fountain construction might finally be starting this spring.

Maybe?

https://news.wjct.org/post/one-year-late-renovation-begin-southbank-s-friendship-fountain

Love the quotes from the DIA.

Just no accountability from anyone in terms of moving beyond talk and actually getting dirt turning.
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MOSH has received $31.8 million in private donations towards their relocation efforts. Pretty impressive

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The Downtown Investment Authority board is scheduled to vote July 29 on a resolution to start negotiations with the Museum of Science and History to move its facility to part of the vacant city-owned Shipyards property on the Northbank.

The action would authorize DIA CEO Lori Boyer to begin talks with MOSH leadership about the museum’s plans to build on a portion of a 21.7-acre parcel.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-consider-negotiations-for-new-mosh-at-shipyards

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Wonderful news. The ball just keeps rolling, by itself in downtown Jacksonville.
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MOSH has received $31.8 million in private donations towards their relocation efforts. Pretty impressive

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The Downtown Investment Authority board is scheduled to vote July 29 on a resolution to start negotiations with the Museum of Science and History to move its facility to part of the vacant city-owned Shipyards property on the Northbank.

The action would authorize DIA CEO Lori Boyer to begin talks with MOSH leadership about the museum’s plans to build on a portion of a 21.7-acre parcel.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-consider-negotiations-for-new-mosh-at-shipyards

This is a great start.

With the city's proposed contribution, they're up to over $50 million toward the new facility.

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MOSH has received $31.8 million in private donations towards their relocation efforts. Pretty impressive

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The Downtown Investment Authority board is scheduled to vote July 29 on a resolution to start negotiations with the Museum of Science and History to move its facility to part of the vacant city-owned Shipyards property on the Northbank.

The action would authorize DIA CEO Lori Boyer to begin talks with MOSH leadership about the museum’s plans to build on a portion of a 21.7-acre parcel.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-consider-negotiations-for-new-mosh-at-shipyards

This is a great start.

With the city's proposed contribution, they're up to over $50 million toward the new facility.

I am not so sure of that.  The Daily Record article said the $31.8 million also includes "civic funding" which I read to be the City's contribution.

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In a July 22 email, CEO Bruce Fafard said the organization has $31.8 million in commitments from individual donors, businesses and civic funding for its MOSH Genesis capital relocation campaign.

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MOSH has received $31.8 million in private donations towards their relocation efforts. Pretty impressive

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The Downtown Investment Authority board is scheduled to vote July 29 on a resolution to start negotiations with the Museum of Science and History to move its facility to part of the vacant city-owned Shipyards property on the Northbank.

The action would authorize DIA CEO Lori Boyer to begin talks with MOSH leadership about the museum’s plans to build on a portion of a 21.7-acre parcel.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dia-to-consider-negotiations-for-new-mosh-at-shipyards

This is a great start.

With the city's proposed contribution, they're up to over $50 million toward the new facility.
With all of that money, should be a state of the art building/facility with stellar attraction impetus; hopefully will pull some of those passer throughs and tourists of off the interstates to spend money downtown.
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Today I got an email from the Museum of Science and History (aka MOSH) announcing they have selected a team to design their new museum on the Northbank.

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The Museum of Science & History (MOSH) today announced the selection of DLR Group as the lead architect for the MOSH Genesis project on the Northbank of Downtown Jacksonville. DLR Group will work with kasper architects + associates, a Jacksonville-based architecture firm and SCAPE, a New York-based landscape architecture firm on the project.
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“Over the past eight months, MOSH’s Board of Trustees and the Genesis Oversight Committee led a competitive process to identify the best possible design partners. We knew this project required the expertise of both a national firm with deep experience in museum architecture, and a local partner with existing relationships and knowledge of the Jacksonville market. Together, we know DLR Group, kasper architects + associates, and SCAPE will bring our vision to life,” said Bruce Fafard, President and CEO of MOSH.
 
DLR Group is a global integrated design firm specializing in significant cultural arts projects nationally and internationally. Ranked as one of the top Cultural Design Firms in the world by BD World Architecture, DLR Group brings to MOSH a multidisciplinary team with deep museum experience, including the Cleveland Museum of Natural History, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, the Museum at Bethel Woods (Woodstock Museum), the Smithsonian American Art Museum’s Renwick Gallery and the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts in Philadelphia.

DLR Group:  https://www.dlrgroup.com/work/projects/museums

SCAPE: https://www.scapestudio.com/

kaspar architects: https://www.kasperarch.com/