Author Topic: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City  (Read 4966 times)

Metro Jacksonville

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2644
    • MetroJacksonville.com
San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« on: October 28, 2008, 05:00:00 AM »
San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City



Almost every city has walkable neighborhoods where it's possible to live a car-lite lifestyle.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/907

David

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1448
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2008, 06:58:08 AM »
I think both San Marco and Riverside offer great car-lite lifestyles depending on your preferences. For me, a current San Marco resident,  the only walkable amenities I make use of regularly are Jack Rabbits for a good show,  River Road park, San Marco Theater and maybe a few of the sub shops nearby. It's always pleasant to go on a bike ride or a jog around here as well. If I went to the grocery store more, that would be a notable deficiency as the San Marco publix is pretty much dead for now.

Major pluses of San Marco- Downtown's just a skip away, as is Springfield & Riverside, upscale dining & shopping,  more of a family friendly atmosphere if you're into that. Easy access to all points east and south.

Major pluses of Riverside - it feels more connected to the urban core area as i'm constantly waiting on trains, bridges or rush hour traffic on the interstate in San Marco. It sometimes takes 10-15 minutes to travel the short 2 miles to Riverside Not to mention the shops, pubs restaurants and numerous parks are more my style on that side of the river. I basically walked or biked everywhere over there, using my car even less than I do over here. But I digress, this is not a vs thread.

I will say that San Marco does feel a bit cleaner, safer even as I rarely hear the police sirens blazing as often as I did on Myra/Stockon st in riverside. Plus, I haven't gotten pulled over 3 times for going to the gas station at night like I did in Riverside :D (my car looks like trouble I guess) But that's probably because I rarely see JSO on hendricks ave at night, or any other vehicles for that matter. Very quiet at night which I do enjoy.

It's really all personal choice as to which one is more suitable as both provide a great walkable enviornment. I don't think i could live anywhere else in town.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2008, 07:01:20 AM by David »

RiversideGator

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2008, 10:49:27 AM »
San Marco is great and very walkable.  I really like the commercial district too there.  But I think it is clear that Riverside is the best place in Jacksonville to live car free.  For example, Riverside has a grocery store (Publix) within the neighborhood, San Marco doesnt.  Riverside has two drug stores in the neighborhood (Carter's Park and King and Walgreens), San Marco has none.  These are amenities which was necessary for life which you can walk or bike to from anywhere in the neighborhood.  San Marco clearly lags in this department at present.  Both have restaurants and retail otherwise.  Both have a great mix of single family and multi-family residential.  But the key difference is walkable needed amenities IMO.  So, I love both neighborhoods but I would give Riverside the clear advantage in terms of a place you can live car free.

TPC

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 307
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 10:56:00 AM »
I lived in San Marco for a year and actually enjoyed it...until it rained. I never knew it flooded so bad. After that I moved to Riverside. I found myself walking and riding my bike more in San Marco on a daily basis then I do now. The San Marco Theatre is awesome and the diversity of shopping/eating in San Marco Square is nice.

Where are those condos under the Gallery Framery image?

Ocklawaha

  • Phd. Ferroequinology
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10443
  • Monster of Mobility! Ocklawaha is Robert Mann
    • LIGHT RAIL JACKSONVILLE
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 11:26:57 AM »


Quote
Major pluses of Riverside - it feels more connected to the urban core area as i'm constantly waiting on trains, bridges or rush hour traffic on the interstate in San Marco. It sometimes takes 10-15 minutes to travel the short 2 miles to Riverside

Sounds like a job for "SKYWAY" to me! Up and OVER!

OCKLAWAHA

thelakelander

  • The Jaxson
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35132
    • Modern Cities
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 12:08:33 PM »
Where are those condos under the Gallery Framery image?

They on the corner of Cedar Street & Belmonte Avenue.  I believe they are rentals.

www.theloftssanmarco.com
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.” - Muhammad Ali

TPC

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 307
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 02:08:43 PM »
Thanks, I haven't seen those before.

michelle

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 30
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2008, 10:10:06 PM »
I read only about San Marco vs. Riverside.  What about Springfield?  Is it walkable and bikeable like San Marco and Riverside?  Or maybe, I digress and this is only supposed to be about San Marco...
Michelle

civil42806

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1408
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 10:31:32 PM »
I read only about San Marco vs. Riverside.  What about Springfield?  Is it walkable and bikeable like San Marco and Riverside?  Or maybe, I digress and this is only supposed to be about San Marco...
Michelle

Springfield is not as walkable and bikeable as either san marco or riverside, lack of basic ammenietes, grocery stores and such..  Springfield is still quite a few years behind both areas.  Primary problem is the housing costs are about the same.  At least they when we my wife and I were looking for a house.  My preference is riverside,  I expect since the housing collapse prices have alleviated somewhat.  Key question is how old are you, I don't mean that in a bad way.  If your a young clubster springfield could make sense.  If your older appreciate a quiet evening, nice meal and walking home at 10 pm I think riverside or san marco would be best.

michelle

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 30
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 01:32:58 AM »
I am early thirties with three kids.  My husband and I are moving to Jacksonville next month and are very interested in Springfield.  I don't mind cycling a bit further to get to most amenities ( I already bike up to 6 miles one way to get places here) as long as the area is safe for cyclists as I will have two kids on my bike and my oldest with me on his bike.  We are pretty much car free now where we live and I bike everywhere all over town with my kids and feel safe.  So, I am looking for the same thing there in Jax.  I have an xtracycle that carries two kids and a week's worth of groceries, so I would love to be able to use it there.

Michelle

civil42806

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1408
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 10:30:22 PM »
I am early thirties with three kids.  My husband and I are moving to Jacksonville next month and are very interested in Springfield.  I don't mind cycling a bit further to get to most amenities ( I already bike up to 6 miles one way to get places here) as long as the area is safe for cyclists as I will have two kids on my bike and my oldest with me on his bike.  We are pretty much car free now where we live and I bike everywhere all over town with my kids and feel safe.  So, I am looking for the same thing there in Jax.  I have an xtracycle that carries two kids and a week's worth of groceries, so I would love to be able to use it there.

Michelle


I would look at riverside or san marco in your situation others may disagree, and they could have more up to date info than I do.  Hopefully the folks that live in springfield here will give you some advice

deathstar

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 284
Re: San Marco: A Walking Oasis in an Unwalkable City
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2008, 03:26:54 AM »
So the 2nd school seen in that collection of pictures, the 24th down, dark red brick school. What was the name of it? Back in 2002, I was in a music video that was filmed there.

Now get this though, it was abandoned, and converted into CONDOS! We had gotten word the day of the signing up for the video, that it was going to be filmed in an old abandoned school that was going to be converted into condos. Everyone's first thought, and fear, was it would be Public School Number Four, as they said "shot in" instead of at. Well we were relieved to say the least when we found out it was in San Marco. Not to take away from PSN4, but this one was much safer.

Link to the music video for "Gone Away" by locals Cold: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK6V6kxq-UQ
Opening scene is in the Florida Theater, with scenes of the lead singers daughter shot somewhere either in San Marco or Riverside.