Author Topic: Skyway Conversion Begins  (Read 6383 times)

bl8jaxnative

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Re: Skyway Conversion Begins
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2020, 01:14:17 PM »
20 years later, Orlando is still wishing for LRT.

A vocal few due, especially the developers looking to cash in on it at the expense of others.  The rest are too busy trying to figure out how to wasting good money on the Sun Rail disaster to comment on LRT.

You don't get that type of density without the transportation network in place to support it.

Not only can you but it exists all over.  Chicago's Hanson Park or Bellvue, WA are a few example.  Downtown Denver has far more people than Miami and no people mover.  Movement studies have shwon resident's don't use LRT to get around the area.   

 White elephants like Miami's people mover correlate with these things; they don't cause them.  Nor are they cataylist.  They're a leach.  Like in Denver, movements that would be made by foot, bus, bike and taxi are pulled into the people mover.   It leads to big fancy numbers that tend to be very small compared to total movements in the area.  The areas growth drives the ridership; not vice versa.

But that's just my two-bits worth.



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Re: Skyway Conversion Begins
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2020, 01:32:37 PM »
You're basically proving my point about the need to integrate land use policy and fixed transit infrastructure investment into a multimodal atmosphere:

Chicago's Hanson Park has at least two Metra stations. In general, Chicago is a very bad example to make against investing in fixed transit systems. Metra isn't making money on running commuter services though.

Denver is one of the most transit friendly up and comers in the country. Downtown Denver has greatly benefited from the coordination of their public investments and land use policies. Again, a poor example when you consider its built around former streetcar lines, a major railroad passenger hub and the amount of LRT, commuter rail, BRT with dedicated ROW that they've invested in over the decades. RTD isn't making money on running LRT, buses and commuter rail though.

As for Bellevue, it's a vertical surburban office park. It doesn't have the density that Miami does and has been continuing the densify. That's an apples and oranges comparison at best.
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Re: Skyway Conversion Begins
« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2020, 03:10:44 PM »
The accord allows JTA to begin using $12.5 million in discretionary grant funds to start the transition of the existing Skyway Express rail people mover into a public autonomous vehicle system. The JTA will begin planning and requests for proposals for contractors by the end of this year and start work on the system in 2021.

We're getting close to the end of the year now. Any idea how far along they've gotten on this boondoggle since then?
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