Author Topic: UFC 249 to be held in Jax  (Read 2789 times)

Charles Hunter

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Re: UFC 249 to be held in Jax
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2020, 07:11:48 PM »
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There is a fine line from covid preparedness and causing a 1929 stock market Great Depression. An overwhelming of the covid deaths are elderly people in nursing homes. To me, opening businesses up, maintain safeguarding (masks etc) and protect the vulnerable should be the way to go. Handing out money every month and plunging the economy into a death spiral (with socialism) isn't the way to go.


How do you propose to get high levels of compliance on "wear a mask" orders? Store employees have been shot or beat-up for insisting customers comply with company policy and CDC guidance to wear a face covering.  The "liberate" protestors refuse to wear masks (well, except for their armymen tactical gear). Without high levels of mask-wearing, the benefit of anyone wearing them is reduced.

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Re: UFC 249 to be held in Jax
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2020, 07:56:28 PM »
Sweden  Covid Cases:   28,582 Deaths: 3,529
Norway  Covid Cases:     8,196 Deaths:    232
Finland  Covid Cases:      6,145 Deaths:    287

Sweden has a little less than double the population of the other two. BTW, Sweden has NOT spared economic damage from the pandemic.   

Can someone explain to me how having an event televised on PPV with no one in attendance, is some sort of economic boon to the host city?

My info was outdated, my bad. I still think that deaths of despair and fear will greatly outnumber covid deaths; damn if you do, damn if you don't. My analogy: covid deaths are the shiny Christmas tree ornament that everyone pays attention to, and the deaths of despair is the lintball that's under the bed, next to the baseboard that no one seemingly cares about.

The Jax 'economic impact' of UFC249 may be very little (outside of maybe some business to Hyatt, and some exposure) but the UFC will be back in Jax (with fans) whenever this rona clears up; that event will have more of an economic impact. 

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Re: UFC 249 to be held in Jax
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2020, 08:06:35 PM »
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There is a fine line from covid preparedness and causing a 1929 stock market Great Depression. An overwhelming of the covid deaths are elderly people in nursing homes. To me, opening businesses up, maintain safeguarding (masks etc) and protect the vulnerable should be the way to go. Handing out money every month and plunging the economy into a death spiral (with socialism) isn't the way to go.


How do you propose to get high levels of compliance on "wear a mask" orders? Store employees have been shot or beat-up for insisting customers comply with company policy and CDC guidance to wear a face covering.  The "liberate" protestors refuse to wear masks (well, except for their armymen tactical gear). Without high levels of mask-wearing, the benefit of anyone wearing them is reduced.

Exactly. Opening up could work if everyone was responsible and showed that they were able to stay safe, and do everything possible to prevent infection while resuming parts of daily life. What we've witnessed is a complete failure of much of the American public to do that, which is why we now lead the world in deaths. Even now, with so many things still closed, people keep going out and infecting each other, and spreading this thing like wildfire.

There's a version of history where our government, and many others, took this seriously from the jump in January or February when intelligence reports started rolling in and locked down enough to limit the spread + contact trace, and this was all over in a month. Unfortunately, we didn't get to live there.

My info was outdated, my bad. I still think that deaths of despair and fear will greatly outnumber covid deaths; damn if you do, damn if you don't. My analogy: covid deaths are the shiny Christmas tree ornament that everyone pays attention to, and the deaths of despair is the lintball that's under the bed, next to the baseboard that no one seemingly cares about.

That's why the people we pay our taxes are supposed to do things to prevent or lessen that despair. Enable people to pay their bills and not have to worry about losing the places they live. Put things on pause so that people still have jobs once things are safe again instead of throwing everyone to the wolves and forcing them to decide between their economic survival and their literal survival.

Although, I question your premise. Are you really suggesting that because of this lockdown more than 80,000 people are going to kill themselves? Just because they couldn't go into the office, or the gym, or get their hair done?

Or if you're suggesting that these people die because they couldn't afford to feed themselves, isn't it more wrong that we chose not to feed them than that we closed things to save their lives?

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Re: UFC 249 to be held in Jax
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2020, 07:53:09 AM »
https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/29189625/1000-tests-32-fights-one-wild-ride

Interesting article about the behind the scenes in Jacksonville...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

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Re: UFC 249 to be held in Jax
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2020, 12:43:45 AM »
^I enjoyed that article, thanks.

btw, is AEW filming their events in Jax? There's this article...and also someone on my facebook posted a photo with Mike Tyson after running into him at an event at Jax Orthopedic Institute.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mike-tyson-teams-with-henry-cejudo-rashad-evans-and-vitor-belfort-in-wrestling-brawl-031119723.html

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Re: UFC 249 to be held in Jax
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2020, 08:35:50 AM »
Yes, AEW has effectively set up shop at Dailey's for the foreseeable future.  I am unsure if they are shooting live every Wednesday or pretaping weeks of TV at a time.

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Re: UFC 249 to be held in Jax
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2020, 11:20:16 AM »
^They're shooting live every Wednesday, for the most part, from Daily's Place.

The active wrestlers are staying at the Hyatt, and some of the older members of the team (Jim Ross, older wrestlers, etc.) are staying elsewhere in Jax.

They also filmed a show on Sunday in the stadium that was legitimately the greatest thing ever (if you like campy stuff):

https://www.sbnation.com/wrestling/2020/5/26/21270999/aew-stadium-stampede-match-was-your-favorite-cheesy-sports-movie-but-better-double-or-nothing