Author Topic: FBC threatens lawsuit if not allowed to historic demolish building  (Read 1406 times)

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Re: FBC threatens lawsuit if not allowed to historic demolish building
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2020, 10:06:00 AM »

Does this building have any current designations?  Is it part of any special districts?  Or is the only issue in play this new landmark designation?

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Re: FBC threatens lawsuit if not allowed to historic demolish building
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2020, 10:16:23 AM »
It's currently a contributing structure to the National Register of Historic Places Downtown Historic District.

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Re: FBC threatens lawsuit if not allowed to historic demolish building
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2020, 09:58:21 AM »

Thank you.   

I should've added the reason I was asking was to understand what the significance of the bldg in legal terms, so to speak, would've been at the time they were making their architectural drawings.

Since it was already part of that, surely they knew it was historically significant.

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Re: FBC threatens lawsuit if not allowed to historic demolish building
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2020, 10:03:05 AM »
This should have been vetted before the pastor showed the congregation renderings of their consolidation plan last fall. So it sounds like they didn't know, didn't care or ignored it. So it's a self creating hardship that now becomes the centerpiece of their argument to raze.
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Re: FBC threatens lawsuit if not allowed to historic demolish building
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2020, 08:50:12 PM »
HPC denied the demolition tonight, 5-2 vote. The case for landmarking the building will be heard at next month's HPC meeting.

FBC brought in a handful of very reputable people to advocate for the demo, along with dozens of fire & brimstone types. The #mappingjax group brought an eclectic mix of roughly the same number of people in opposition.

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Re: FBC threatens lawsuit if not allowed to historic demolish building
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2020, 09:05:24 PM »
Fire and brimstones, singing, public prayer and even very reputable people advocating demo all have very little to do with determining if a building meets the necessary landmark designation criteria. Good to see what grass roots community can help accomplish when organized. Keep the emotions out of it, stay in alignment with the policies, advocate for adaptive reuse and push forward with continuing to contact commission members and council representatives.
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Re: FBC threatens lawsuit if not allowed to historic demolish building
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2020, 06:34:15 AM »
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First Baptist Church denied demolition permit for Downtown building

The Jacksonville Historic Preservation Commission voted Feb. 26 to deny First Baptist Church a permit to demolish its Downtown building at 125 W. Church St., but the fate of the structure may not yet be decided.

More than 100 people attended the public hearing to show support both for and against the demolition. The meeting was moved to a larger space to handle the crowd.

The vote was 5-2. Commissioners Jack C. Demetree III, Andres Lopera, Erik Kasper, Timothy Bramwell and Maiju Stansel voted to deny the permit. Ryan Davis and Max Glober voted against.


https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/first-baptist-church-denied-demolition-permit-for-downtown-building
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