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Commuter Rail: Coming to a city near you!
« on: January 09, 2007, 12:00:00 AM »
Commuter Rail: Coming to a city near you!

Unfortunately, its headed to a town about two hours to the South called Orlando.  Nevertheless, the success of this rail line in the land of Mickey will impact the future of Jacksonville more than we think.  In the meantime, the planning of this commuter rail line provides a nearby blueprint for our transporation leaders follow.

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 01:21:32 PM »
Excellent article.  Orlando's plans appear very sound and organized.

Please JTA, give commuter rail more thought.


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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 05:41:16 PM »
Is it JTA that has to consider it or is it the mayor? JTA is in charge of the buses, i'm assuming they hope the mayor goes w/ them so they get paid.


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Looks great
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 12:08:00 PM »
Good for Orlando. It is turning into a pretty progressive thinking city unlike it's neighbor to the north, Cowford.


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Uh, Rediculous to compare I4 to I95
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2007, 05:18:20 PM »
The congestion on I4 is rediculous compared to our issues with I95 or I10. Orlando citizens cannot move without rail options. We still have options here. The fact that 17/92 is paralleled with double-track makes rail easier for them. I do not want MY taxes rising just so some 40 people from Mandarin can ride a commuter train down to the King Street Station on FEC lines. We don't have enough population density to warrant taking cars off the roads and putting them on train tracks. JTA is spending its future on busing.


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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2007, 09:33:36 AM »
You're right, we do have several options.  The one on the table is to spend +$600 million on a little bus system that won't be operational until 20 years from now.  Even then, it won't even stretch past Gateway Mall to the north, Regency Mall to the east and Baymeadows Road to the South.  You can have a commuter rail system running on our double tracked lines and already owned COJ rail right-of-way through the northside for less than one-tenth the cost of that bus system JTA wants.  If you want your taxes raised, then buses is definately the way to go.

Our transportation needs also extend beyond I-95 and I-10.  Considering costs, access, quality of life and positive infill development impact, implementation of commuter rail appears to be the cheapest and most efficient form of alternative transit improvements that we can make in the First Coast.  By the way, we favor commuter rail because our population density can't support more expensive heavy or light rail systems.

As far as taxes being raised, I'd rather keep the same by implementing cheap commuter rail, then jacking them up to fund additional multi-billion dollar road projects like 9B, that only make it easier to live in areas OUTSIDE of Duval County and local road congestion worse.  Its time to either jump on board now, while start up cost and land values are cheap, then to be forced into it a few years down the road after paving more environmentally sensitive land.

Based on your comment, it seems you may be confused about the different types of rail and their costs, compared to major road construction projects and Bus Rapid Transit.  When you compare costs and benefits apples-to-apples, what you get with urban commuter rail vs. the others will make you think twice.  Here's a link to a Metro Jacksonville study that will bring better clarification on commuter rail.
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