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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #105 on: June 06, 2019, 12:40:10 PM »
If you don't believe in the flying spahgetti monster it only proves that you're too ignorant to be able to flying spahgetti monster.  Wonderful logic folks, keep it up.

 If someone was actually afraid of people of color, there isn't a damn place in this town one could go - downtown, Riverside, Durbin Park, Wildlight, Orange Park, Ortega, Mandarin, Ft. Caroline, et al.  EVERYWHERE.   You just can't live in this city if that's your hangup.

It's not an issue of perception of fear, it's an issue of why risk it.  Like statistically you don't have to wear your seat belt but why risk it.   Dunn Avenue may not be Moncrief but it's a far cry from Argyle Forest Blvd, too. 

It ain't about color, it's about socio-economic class.  We have deep evolutionary things going on here about not feeling comfortable around things that are outside of the norm.   


A lot of coworkers have been talking about The Landing since it popped up in the news last year.  Not one has any of them mentioned they didn't feel safe there.  They all have said various combinations of:

a) I didn't know there were any stores left there
b) The restaurants left served crap food
c) I didn't know there were any stores left there
d) I never shopped there
 

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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #106 on: June 06, 2019, 01:03:40 PM »
Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.

The big monolith is the spot where the most people died. There ought to be a sign there pointing that out.
Is it even coming back?

Good question. It also wouldn’t have been the actual spot, as the river used to be farther in.

What would be cool is a series of markers (maybe at every block) which detailed the spread of the fire.  Things like time from start, what structures on that block were burned, any heroic tales, and of course any loss of life.
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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #107 on: June 06, 2019, 01:11:52 PM »
Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.

The big monolith is the spot where the most people died. There ought to be a sign there pointing that out.
Is it even coming back?

Good question. It also wouldn’t have been the actual spot, as the river used to be farther in.

What would be cool is a series of markers (maybe at every block) which detailed the spread of the fire.  Things like time from start, what structures on that block were burned, any heroic tales, and of course any loss of life.

That would be really cool.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #108 on: June 06, 2019, 01:59:41 PM »
Jax has/had two commemorative markers for the Great Fire.  Neither are at the spot where the fire started.  The single most defining event of Jacksonville and we can't even get that right.

The big monolith is the spot where the most people died. There ought to be a sign there pointing that out.
Is it even coming back?

Good question. It also wouldn’t have been the actual spot, as the river used to be farther in.

What would be cool is a series of markers (maybe at every block) which detailed the spread of the fire.  Things like time from start, what structures on that block were burned, any heroic tales, and of course any loss of life.

I spend a lot of time on this site disagreeing with you.

However, this is actually a GREAT idea.

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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #109 on: June 06, 2019, 02:16:53 PM »
If you don't believe in the flying spahgetti monster it only proves that you're too ignorant to be able to flying spahgetti monster.  Wonderful logic folks, keep it up.

 If someone was actually afraid of people of color, there isn't a damn place in this town one could go - downtown, Riverside, Durbin Park, Wildlight, Orange Park, Ortega, Mandarin, Ft. Caroline, et al.  EVERYWHERE.   You just can't live in this city if that's your hangup.

It's not an issue of perception of fear, it's an issue of why risk it.  Like statistically you don't have to wear your seat belt but why risk it.   Dunn Avenue may not be Moncrief but it's a far cry from Argyle Forest Blvd, too. 

It ain't about color, it's about socio-economic class.  We have deep evolutionary things going on here about not feeling comfortable around things that are outside of the norm.   


A lot of coworkers have been talking about The Landing since it popped up in the news last year.  Not one has any of them mentioned they didn't feel safe there.  They all have said various combinations of:

a) I didn't know there were any stores left there
b) The restaurants left served crap food
c) I didn't know there were any stores left there
d) I never shopped there

I tend to agree that socio-economic class drives perception more than race (though it is foolish to argue that there are no racial prejudices). A good example would be to watch the first 10 minutes of Katt Williams Netflix special (filmed in Jax) where he goes off on how many sketchy places and unsafe places there are in Jax.

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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2019, 02:27:57 PM »
What makes Dunn Ave unappealing is that....well...it's unappealing.  Lots of places in Jax could use some serious landscaping and beautification.  Alas, Jax has so many miles of poorly landscaped stroads where would you even start?  Name one attractive street in Jacksonville.
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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2019, 02:35:52 PM »
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What makes Dunn Ave unappealing is that....well...it's unappealing.  Lots of places in Jax could use some serious landscaping and beautification.  Alas, Jax has so many miles of poorly landscaped stroads where would you even start?  Name one attractive street in Jacksonville

Main St. It just has that "Small Town U.S.A" feeling heading towards Dunns IMO.
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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #112 on: June 06, 2019, 02:43:52 PM »
What makes Dunn Ave unappealing is that....well...it's unappealing.  Lots of places in Jax could use some serious landscaping and beautification.  Alas, Jax has so many miles of poorly landscaped stroads where would you even start?
 


It's literally identical to the majority of suburban arterial 4 to 6 lane roads in this city. The average person wouldn't be able to tell Dunn from Baymeadows, Atlantic, Beach or 103rd.

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Name one attractive street in Jacksonville.

Some I like in terms of landscape include St. Johns Avenue, Gate Parkway (between Southside and Town Center Parkway), Ortega Boulevard, Heckscher (east of Blount Island)...
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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #114 on: June 06, 2019, 11:44:58 PM »
He sounds more logical:

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The city owns the land, but the judge’s order paves the way for the two retail pavillions along Light and Pratt streets to be sold. Young acknowledged that the future of the site would lie with any new owner, but said he’d want to talk to them about a new concept involving shops, restaurants, a Ferris wheel and a merry-go-round.

Young said he’d be open to the city selling the land.

“I would like to see a mixture of everything there,” Young said. “Whoever buys it, it’s up to them but I would like to have those conversations.”

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.” - Muhammad Ali

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Re: 10 Grass Fields To Get You Pumped For The Landing Demo
« Reply #115 on: June 07, 2019, 12:00:07 PM »
A lot of this trouble could be avoided if these cities would just sell the land these developments sit on instead of leasing it.  Who the heck wants to build a supposed permanent structure on rented land other than someone who doesn't olan on being around long enough to care.
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