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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2018, 03:34:25 PM »
Anyway - back to the topic. I don't think Gillum is going to use healthcare as a ploy to create the Peoples' Republic of Florida if he wins the election.
Considering his Mayoral activities,  I think he should come up with a program pushing discounts for health services for people that "pay cash".  Perhaps LaunderCare?

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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2018, 05:12:07 PM »
Anyway - back to the topic. I don't think Gillum is going to use healthcare as a ploy to create the Peoples' Republic of Florida if he wins the election.
Considering his Mayoral activities,  I think he should come up with a program pushing discounts for health services for people that "pay cash".  Perhaps LaunderCare?

Funny, though I suspect not a very good way to launder money.
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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2018, 10:17:03 PM »
Looks like the FL House and Senate races are pretty much neck and neck (according to these unreliable mostly leftist bias polls anyway)! Not too long ago, many had Gillum as a shoe-in for governor, not so fast! It's pretty much damn near a done deal that the Republicans will hold on to the Senate (esp with the McCaskill debacle). Concerning the House, who knows!

https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/governor-candidates-campaigning-in-jacksonville?__vfz=rtw_top_pages%3D3061700005532
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2018, 03:47:12 PM »

Well, I learned something new today.  There is something people deny that's even more outrageous than denying climate change, it's denying that Venezuela is socialism. 


Wow.  Holy shit.  This is crazy times.   At least I now have a chance to cash in on some bridges AND I know who's going to buy them.

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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2018, 05:31:22 PM »

Well, I learned something new today.  There is something people deny that's even more outrageous than denying climate change, it's denying that Venezuela is socialism. 


Wow.  Holy shit.  This is crazy times.   At least I now have a chance to cash in on some bridges AND I know who's going to buy them.

Perhaps, instead of pithy responses, you should just pick up a book. Socialism isn't whatever Glenn Beck or Alex Jones or Rush Limbaugh or whoever decide it is.

The relations of production are unchanged in Venezuela - it is still clearly operating within the capitalist mode of production. Yes, the ruling party describes itself as socialist and yes, they tinker with the economy and some industries are nationalised. But that doesn't make it a socialist economy - it makes it a mixed market economy.
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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2018, 08:19:19 AM »
I wonder how many people watched that debate performance by DeSantis last night and still feel comfortable in voting for him?

I am trying to remember a more awkward, unsure person running for major office.

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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2018, 11:52:21 AM »
I wonder how many people watched that debate performance by DeSantis last night and still feel comfortable in voting for him?

I am trying to remember a more awkward, unsure person running for major office.

I was blown away by DeSantis last night. I don't understand how someone so blatantly and utterly unqualified could stand on a stage and make it so obvious that they just didn't know what to do other than insult his opponent and completely avoid the questions.

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« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2018, 12:05:21 PM »
DeSantis really just didn’t give his position on anything. He didn’t refuse he would just give a response like well this person or group likes me, Gillum is bad or in some other way deflect. That said he was good at the technique it usually didn’t appear awkward. They were both good at debating and likely didn’t lose any points from their support.
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« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2018, 04:46:09 PM »
One guy who position on health care isn't clear vs another guy saying freebies for everybody with socialism! The latter candidate scares the shit of me 100 percent more; socialism in Florida! If he wins, get ready to be the Cali of the East Coast government-wise....Get ready to have astronomical taxes, an open borders state, and becoming a state income tax state....



That was a stupid comment. How surprising from you. Where is Stephen D when we need him.

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« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2018, 04:54:00 PM »
Don't bother trying to explain socialism anything that is labeled by the right as a give away is socialism..so one more time for the dense:

"a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

Ooh, such a sugarcoated leftist definition....Where did you get that, from leftist academia? Socialism is utopian nonsense. There's a difference from PUBLIC SERVICES to a full blown socialist government...Alot of Latin America runs on socialism (ie Venezuela, Nicaragua etc) How is it working out for them, or any other country in the world?  This is my definition...

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Socialism has its roots in visions of imaginary ideal societies, from thinkers who drew up elaborated designs and concepts for creating what they considered a more equal society, along collectivist lines or abolished private property; the primarily ideas came from British and French thinkers like Saint-Simon, Charles Fourier, Louis Blanc, and Robert Owen preceded by Thomas More, Tommaso Campanella, and Jean Meslier.

One of the atheist Karl Marx's titles is the father of socialism. Currently it is considered a leftist economic system which advocates state ownership or direct control of the major means of production and distribution of goods and services.

Socialism is the economic system imposed by Communism, but another one of the most well known political parties of the 20th century that was socialistic was the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi Party), headed by the fascist, but anti-communist Adolf Hitler. Often socialism is a matter of degree and numerous economies in the world are very socialistic such as European countries (many of which are facing financial difficulties due to over taxation and excessive spending).

Then I say abolish public schools, fire departments, police departments, the public library, military, ss, medicare and anything paid with our tax dollar and what the hell just become a 3rd world country and let everyone old die if they are old or infirmed. And then all your right wingers can just pave your own damn roads, put out your fires, shoot anyone you assume is an intruder or about to rape, rob or look at you the wrong way and have fun with whatever is left. trump is the perfect president for you. He doesn't give a s*&t about any of us any way.

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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2018, 05:59:13 PM »
^^^LOL, suffering from TDS? Public services are necessary for a civil society; please stop muddying the waters between public services and socialism. If 45 don't care about any of us, than 44 really despised ALL Americans. One prez tries to maintain a country with borders, and the other one mastered 'catch and release'. 44 divided everyone in the country with wedge issues; Black vs White, middle class vs poor, Christianity vs Islam, civilians vs the police etc etc etc.

Trump maybe dividing Americans from illegal aliens (rightfully so, going by the books) while Obama was dividing all Americans period!!! Blacks and whites were like fucking kumbaya under George Bush, George freaking Bush (who I hate)!! Then 44 got in there, and it was like the 1960's all over again! Riots, poor race relations, BLM, Antifa, police villainization, criminal infantilization, all under our great former prez BHO. 
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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2018, 06:29:49 PM »
^^^LOL, suffering from TDS? Public services are necessary for a civil society; please stop muddying the waters between public services and socialism. If 45 don't care about any of us, than 44 really despised ALL Americans. One prez tries to maintain a country with borders, and the other one mastered 'catch and release'. 44 divided everyone in the country with wedge issues; Black vs White, middle class vs poor, Christianity vs Islam, civilians vs the police etc etc etc.

Trump maybe dividing Americans from illegal aliens (rightfully so, going by the books) while Obama was dividing all Americans period!!! Blacks and whites were like fucking kumbaya under George Bush, George freaking Bush (who I hate)!! Then 44 got in there, and it was like the 1960's all over again! Riots, poor race relations, BLM, Antifa, police villainization, criminal infantilization, all under our great former prez BHO.

I'm no Obama fan, but it's worth noting that he stepped up deportations - he was called the 'Deporter in Chief' by immigrants' rights groups and other critics.

Feel free to hate on Obama for whatever reasons, but don't make stuff up out of whole cloth.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/08/trump-deportations-behind-obama-levels-241420
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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2018, 06:55:32 PM »
^^^I'm not denying Obama's deportation record, but he maintained the catch and release system. IMO the difference between Obama's and Trump's presidency concerning on what they dealt/are dealing with illegal immigration; Obama had to deal with mainly human traffickers, and Trump has to deal with the human traffickers and globalist NGOs like the Soros foundations, who I think are organizing caravans, like the one that's coming from Central America.

The hardline left and their globalist aspirations have gotten more radical under Trump too. When Obama actually did his job and deported aliens, it was overlooked for the very Obama friendly MSM; when Trump does it, the media says 'muh rayciss orange man!!".     
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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2018, 11:08:49 AM »
^^^I'm not denying Obama's deportation record, but he maintained the catch and release system. IMO the difference between Obama's and Trump's presidency concerning on what they dealt/are dealing with illegal immigration; Obama had to deal with mainly human traffickers, and Trump has to deal with the human traffickers and globalist NGOs like the Soros foundations, who I think are organizing caravans, like the one that's coming from Central America.

The hardline left and their globalist aspirations have gotten more radical under Trump too. When Obama actually did his job and deported aliens, it was overlooked for the very Obama friendly MSM; when Trump does it, the media says 'muh rayciss orange man!!".   

I think the tin foil hat has finally ruined cognizant thought.,
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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2018, 02:40:49 AM »
^^^Okay, concerning the caravan, many of them are being trucked and paid. Do your research. That tiresome "Muh right wing conspiracy" main steam media BS doesn't hold any weight. Explain the money being passed out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KspFTWt7SZ0