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DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« on: October 15, 2018, 11:03:20 AM »

You would think the candidates platforms would have been well developed long before the primaries were over.  Ron DeSantis still can't seem to get his done.  Another article about DeSantis avoiding having to answer for his ideas by not letting anyone know if he has any.


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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2018, 12:26:49 PM »
That's probably cause DeSantis has a nice health insurance package paid for by his employees.................oops...
I mean the people he works for!

You strip health insurance from our politicians and you'd see a fix in no time....if we all had the same plan (or NO plan).

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2018, 08:38:17 PM »
Obama fixed healthcare already.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2018, 11:41:57 PM »
Obama fixed healthcare already.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 12:14:11 AM »
One guy who position on health care isn't clear vs another guy saying freebies for everybody with socialism! The latter candidate scares the shit of me 100 percent more; socialism in Florida! If he wins, get ready to be the Cali of the East Coast government-wise....Get ready to have astronomical taxes, an open borders state, and becoming a state income tax state....


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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 08:27:13 AM »
I 10,   there's always Texas!

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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 08:40:40 AM »
One guy who position on health care isn't clear vs another guy saying freebies for everybody with socialism! The latter candidate scares the shit of me 100 percent more; socialism in Florida! If he wins, get ready to be the Cali of the East Coast government-wise....Get ready to have astronomical taxes, an open borders state, and becoming a state income tax state....

Universal health care is not socialism any more than libraries, public schools, football stadiums, the military, roads, etc are 'socialism'.
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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 10:33:48 AM »
Healthcare is in need of major reform in the US. The fact that medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the wealthiest nation on earth is crazy. Its a hard question with no easy answers. 

Right now the GOP does not have a solution to make things better for the majority of Americans. They railed against the ACA for years and then accomplished nothing meaningful when handed the keys to all three branches of government. If they have a viable plan, where is it?


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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2018, 11:19:14 AM »
Healthcare is in need of major reform in the US. The fact that medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the wealthiest nation on earth is crazy. Its a hard question with no easy answers. 


And yet, people in large numbers do nothing about things they can largely control to lower risks and potential costs to themselves( ignore nutrition,exercise, and financial planning) and are generally either apathetic or ignorant when it comes to elections and how our government actual functions.
However, Americans are great at complaining,excuses and blaming others. So we have that going for us.

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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2018, 11:19:25 AM »
One guy who position on health care isn't clear vs another guy saying freebies for everybody with socialism! The latter candidate scares the shit of me 100 percent more; socialism in Florida! If he wins, get ready to be the Cali of the East Coast government-wise....Get ready to have astronomical taxes, an open borders state, and becoming a state income tax state....

Universal health care is not socialism any more than libraries, public schools, football stadiums, the military, roads, etc are 'socialism'.

Don't bother trying to explain socialism anything that is labeled by the right as a give away is socialism..so one more time for the dense:

"a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2018, 11:40:52 AM »
One guy who position on health care isn't clear vs another guy saying freebies for everybody with socialism! The latter candidate scares the shit of me 100 percent more; socialism in Florida! If he wins, get ready to be the Cali of the East Coast government-wise....Get ready to have astronomical taxes, an open borders state, and becoming a state income tax state....

Universal health care is not socialism any more than libraries, public schools, football stadiums, the military, roads, etc are 'socialism'.

Don't bother trying to explain socialism anything that is labeled by the right as a give away is socialism..so one more time for the dense:

"a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

How would the dense know what the hell that means?
Better idea: Google "You have two cows".

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2018, 11:45:58 AM »
Its for the dense because the refusal to understand the difference between economic and political theories generally leads to stupid statements accusing nationalized healthcare as socialism.

To me Republicans and Democrats are both liberals in the traditional economic sense of supporting market based economies and democracy in the political sense.

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2018, 12:02:01 PM »
Its for the dense because the refusal to understand the difference between economic and political theories generally leads to stupid statements accusing nationalized healthcare as socialism.

To me Republicans and Democrats are both liberals in the traditional economic sense of supporting market based economies and democracy in the political sense.



I take it socialists don't have a sense of humor.

Of course, they don't have much of anything, so why would they? :)   I'm here all week.

But for the humorless: I doubt a dense person would be able to grasp the meaning of the description you posted. Because...they are dense. Get it?


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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2018, 12:27:55 PM »
Its for the dense because the refusal to understand the difference between economic and political theories generally leads to stupid statements accusing nationalized healthcare as socialism.

To me Republicans and Democrats are both liberals in the traditional economic sense of supporting market based economies and democracy in the political sense.



I take it socialists don't have a sense of humor.

Of course, they don't have much of anything, so why would they? :)   I'm here all week.

But for the humorless: I doubt a dense person would be able to grasp the meaning of the description you posted. Because...they are dense. Get it?

 ;D  Good point.
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Re: DeSantis still no position on Healthcare with 3 weeks to go.
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2018, 01:39:33 PM »
Healthcare is in need of major reform in the US. The fact that medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the wealthiest nation on earth is crazy. Its a hard question with no easy answers. 


And yet, people in large numbers do nothing about things they can largely control to lower risks and potential costs to themselves( ignore nutrition,exercise, and financial planning) and are generally either apathetic or ignorant when it comes to elections and how our government actual functions.
However, Americans are great at complaining,excuses and blaming others. So we have that going for us.

You're doing a great job of complaining, blaming, and making excuses for the current situation yourself ;). Planning has nothing to do with getting a dire illness when young, unemployed etc.

From a study on Washington State cancer survivors: We found that cancer patients were 2.65 times more likely to go bankrupt than people without cancer. Younger cancer patients had 2–5 times higher rates of bankruptcy than cancer patients age sixty-five or older, which indicates that Medicare and Social Security may mitigate bankruptcy risk for the older group.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2012.1263

Here's more data from a 2016 NIH study, 3% of cancer survivors will file for bankruptcy, which is over 3X the nationwide average of <1%.

"Approximately one-third of the survivors had gone into debt, and 3 percent had filed for bankruptcy ... Cancer survivors who were younger, had lower incomes, and had public health insurance were more likely to go into debt or file for bankruptcy, compared to those who were older, had higher incomes, and had private insurance, respectively."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6057727/
http://www.bcsalliance.com/bankruptcy_statestats.html