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Re: Koch Brothers killing Transit initiatives across the country
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 02:30:25 PM »
Voters reap what they sow - at least in Nashville.  I wonder how this woman voted on the mass transit plan

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-nashville-rapidly-expands-residents-worry-the-metropolis-is-growing-too-fast-1529314200

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Kathleen Ervin moved here 12 years ago from the Northeast, drawn to the relaxed atmosphere, green parks and relatively low cost of living.

But in the past five years, her commute time from her 1950s ranch house in the Glendale neighborhood to her job about 12 miles away has tripled on some days to 45 minutes because of increased traffic....

“We hear all this talk about how Nashville doesn’t want to become Houston, Nashville doesn’t want to become Atlanta,” said the 54-year-old account manager at a merchant processor. “Who is preventing that from happening?”
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Re: Koch Brothers killing Transit initiatives across the country
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 07:31:45 PM »
the only winners in all of this are the Koch brothers and the auto industry.

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Re: Koch Brothers killing Transit initiatives across the country
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 08:59:31 PM »
Voters reap what they sow - at least in Nashville.  I wonder how this woman voted on the mass transit plan

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-nashville-rapidly-expands-residents-worry-the-metropolis-is-growing-too-fast-1529314200

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Kathleen Ervin moved here 12 years ago from the Northeast, drawn to the relaxed atmosphere, green parks and relatively low cost of living.

But in the past five years, her commute time from her 1950s ranch house in the Glendale neighborhood to her job about 12 miles away has tripled on some days to 45 minutes because of increased traffic....

“We hear all this talk about how Nashville doesn’t want to become Houston, Nashville doesn’t want to become Atlanta,” said the 54-year-old account manager at a merchant processor. “Who is preventing that from happening?”

Both of those cities are more diverse, inclusive, denser, and have high frequency fixed transit systems. They don't have to worry about being like either of them.
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Re: Koch Brothers killing Transit initiatives across the country
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 11:06:35 AM »
I think her reference to Atlanta and Houston had to do with the their traffic and sprawl.  The irony is in her question about who is supposed to prevent that from happening.  By the voters disapproving mass transit and local opposition to higher density single family homes known as "tall skinny", the only option IS to become Atlanta and Houston.  They are getting the exactly what they say they don't want, and they are doing it to themselves.
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Re: Koch Brothers killing Transit initiatives across the country
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 02:03:17 PM »
Oh I know. They are typically wrong. They irony is they do have sprawl and congestion that's applicable for their scale. What they don't have is the rapid transit to serve as the base for a portion of their city to expand to present a decent scaled alternative for their residents. So they'll end up with the worst parts of what they hate about those cities and not the rapidly expanding pedestrian scale scenes that these places are currently witnessing mushroom throughout their cores. So like you've stated, they're getting exactly what they say they don't want.
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Re: Koch Brothers killing Transit initiatives across the country
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2018, 01:43:53 PM »

The Nashville plan was bound to fail and fail hard.   They were asking the voters of Davidson County to max out their sales tax to pay for a giant tunnel downtown and a handful of light rail lines that only served just the core.

They were asking people to pay for something that they couldn't imagine themselves using.  That in itself was a recipe for failure.

The cherry on top was the biggest public champion on the plan, Mayor Barry, getting caught stealing from the public.  Well, IIRC, that's technically an allegation at this point.   

Barry was taking from the public while the whole time saying "trust me, this is a great plan.  vote for it".  If the referendum had any hope, her actions killed it off.

To blame anyone or anything else for what was an uphill proposition anywhere - raising taxes - for a plan that didn't equally spread the benefits and was championed by someone that showed the public to ( probably ) be a thief.... only a deranged zealot could fail to acknowledge why Nashville's plan didn't fail.