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Steve

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #90 on: May 24, 2018, 12:03:07 PM »
Now I know for junior employees of companies it's common practice not to approve reimbursement of business class travel for flights under 2 or 3 hours, which would eliminate many of the 20-something's from being able to fly business on a JIA-ATL connection.  That being said, anyone who flies Delta regularly and books that connection in coach would routinely if not pretty much all the time get bumped up anyway, speaking from personal experience.

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On planes themselves, with 767s pretty long gone and thankfully 757s now too, my favorite plane to fly is an up updated 737 extended or even a new 737 extended, I can't tell the difference, followed closely by A320 equivalent.

Good to hear you back. I'm with you on most of your post except these two:

 - If you get regularly upgraded on JAX-ATL, you must have some discriminating photos of someone high up on Delta. I'm a Platinum this year and was a Diamond in 2017, and even as a Diamond, my upgrade percentage was WELL short of 50%. In many cases, I was #1/2/3/4 on the list for 0 or 1 seat. I was even double digits on the list as a Diamond once. I also have a few Delta 360 friends and they give their upgrade percentages of ~ 50%.

 - I personally disagree on the Delta 757's. They've lost their luster for me since the retrofit, but I'd still consider them the best single aisle plane Delta has, particularly up front, and the best non-lie flat plane in their Fleet.

I haven’t been elite (I’m on American) on Delta since 2016 but my upgrade percentage from Jax to ATLANTA was over 50%. I have about the same upgrade percentage on American now whether I’m flying to Miami or Charlotte.

In my experience, and using the anecdotal experience of clients who fly on a daily basis, it´s exceptionally easy to get upgraded on the way to the hub - those 45 min jumper flights, given the lack of people with status in a place like JAX. That said - what´s your upgrade percentage flying not TO the hub, but ex-hub? Try getting upgraded flying ATL to Tokyo, or hell, MIA to NYC. Slim to none...fat chance at best.

In other news, I still hate the living daylight out of Delta  ;D

Excluding JAX-ATL or the inverse, my upgrade percentage was about 85% overall in 2017 as a Diamond, and that included transcons. This year as a Platinum it’s about 50/50.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #91 on: July 11, 2018, 07:02:15 AM »

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #92 on: July 11, 2018, 12:03:59 PM »
Thanks, although not much info there. So they are increasing their number of flights? There was already service between the two airports prior, although it may have just been several days a week and/or seasonal.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2018, 08:18:47 AM »
Generic Lounge associated with Priority Pass. Surprised AA wouldn’t consider an Admiral’s Club.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2018, 08:46:32 AM »
Actually in looking further, this will be part of "The Club" chain. Pleasantly surprised by that as they have a decent reputation. Normally you see them in International Airports, and a foreign carrier will contract with them. If the carrier operates one flight a day (example: Ethiad from Atlanta) it often doesn't make sense for them to open their own lounge.

Perhaps they're trying to use this as an extra incentive for a foreign carrier to try an Over the Pond route? By and large the Frontier/Allegiant/Southwest/Silver crowd don't usually have lounge access and Delta has their lounge.
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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2018, 09:38:19 AM »
Actually in looking further, this will be part of "The Club" chain. Pleasantly surprised by that as they have a decent reputation. Normally you see them in International Airports, and a foreign carrier will contract with them. If the carrier operates one flight a day (example: Ethiad from Atlanta) it often doesn't make sense for them to open their own lounge.

Perhaps they're trying to use this as an extra incentive for a foreign carrier to try an Over the Pond route? By and large the Frontier/Allegiant/Southwest/Silver crowd don't usually have lounge access and Delta has their lounge.

There have been some discussions with British Airways as recently as yesterday about a direct route.

They're looking to branch out into some smaller airports, and just added Nashville earlier this summer.

British Airways' concern is less about filling the Jacksonville-to-London flights, and more about Jacksonville not being a strong enough brand as a city to fill the London-to-Jacksonville flights.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #98 on: August 10, 2018, 10:41:12 AM »
Anyone have any idea how the JAX-YYZ Air Canada route has been doing? I took it last July and it was ok iirc.

Re: lounge, it sounds pretty generic but it's a start. Since our move I seldom fly out of Jax but it is still really nice to see the progress.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #99 on: August 10, 2018, 01:28:39 PM »
Actually in looking further, this will be part of "The Club" chain. Pleasantly surprised by that as they have a decent reputation. Normally you see them in International Airports, and a foreign carrier will contract with them. If the carrier operates one flight a day (example: Ethiad from Atlanta) it often doesn't make sense for them to open their own lounge.

Perhaps they're trying to use this as an extra incentive for a foreign carrier to try an Over the Pond route? By and large the Frontier/Allegiant/Southwest/Silver crowd don't usually have lounge access and Delta has their lounge.

There have been some discussions with British Airways as recently as yesterday about a direct route.

They're looking to branch out into some smaller airports, and just added Nashville earlier this summer.

British Airways' concern is less about filling the Jacksonville-to-London flights, and more about Jacksonville not being a strong enough brand as a city to fill the London-to-Jacksonville flights.


Any leverage using "Medical destination" from UK/Europe? I know that it would not fill planes, but it could help sell the area.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2018, 08:07:28 AM »
Actually in looking further, this will be part of "The Club" chain. Pleasantly surprised by that as they have a decent reputation. Normally you see them in International Airports, and a foreign carrier will contract with them. If the carrier operates one flight a day (example: Ethiad from Atlanta) it often doesn't make sense for them to open their own lounge.

Perhaps they're trying to use this as an extra incentive for a foreign carrier to try an Over the Pond route? By and large the Frontier/Allegiant/Southwest/Silver crowd don't usually have lounge access and Delta has their lounge.

This was my thought as well. I would be ecstatic for a direct flight to London. I would fly this route multiple times per year.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #101 on: September 19, 2018, 10:19:22 AM »

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2018, 11:09:39 AM »
Great news! I generally have clients combine/pro day training in Chicago. Hopefully, Spirit will add some direct flights to New Orleans soon.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #103 on: September 19, 2018, 02:00:18 PM »
Just consolidating comments to my thread  ;D

They're replacing Silver.

I think I'll take Spirit over Silver. Not that I think the customer experience is much better at all, but Spirit at least has the capacity to ramp up operations if they see opportunity, and they have a robust international network. Silver is small potatoes with just a dozen or so destinations almost entirely in FL and the Bahamas. Now we have all the major ULCC, with Allegiant and Frontier already building sizable inroads at JIA.

While both Florida-based airlines, their routes won't overlap. Spirit flew to Tampa with seasonal flights to Marsh Harbour. Spirit will fly daily to Chicago and Detroit.

Bummed to lose an "international" flight, but Spirit may be able to eventually add those and more if it makes sense. They'll be competing with AA, United and Frontier for the Chicago leg. Detroit was previously only serviced by Delta, I've purchased that flight three times before and usually not a good fare, so this should definitely be beneficial to the consumer.

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Re: JAX/JIA updates
« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2018, 02:25:11 PM »
I liked Silver when they were competitive in pricing at JAX to other domestic carriers and went non-stop to Florida locations that were long to drive to (Orlando, Tampa, Miami/Ft. Lauderdale). I remember years ago having $99 flights to FLL. The only down side was being on a prop plane is a much different expirence than a jet plane, but for that price and distance wasn't a big deal.

Recently though to go to any other location besides Tampa required way too many layovers in locations that weren't even in the direction of my destination that I found it wasn't worth it to fly Silver. I think Frontier has taken my prefered low-cost spot. Only really ever flew Spirit once out of Orlando so not much expirence with them yet.
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