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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 01:48:12 AM »
I think YMCA would have to agree to that??

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2017, 05:25:20 PM »
They will hopefully long term see an uptick with more development there. That hotel would be clutch on Forest across the street from the plaza there. Of course Vista will bring a lot of people there as well. But Central Park? Really? lol

A 90-100 room boutique hotel would do well in Brooklyn and would get a lot of business travelers during the week. Most of my vendors stay on the southbank when they visit. I'm sure the same thing happens with people who visit Black Knight, Everbank, BCBS, or any other Brooklyn based office.

Why not do a hotel next to the YMCA on that land they're currently using as parking? Makes it close to the river, puts it right on Riverside Ave, while still being across the street from Unity?


That would be a great spot for a hotel.

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2017, 05:26:57 PM »
I think YMCA would have to agree to that??

Yes, the Y owns that land. I believe that they want any deal to include shared use of a parking garage.

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2017, 01:04:20 AM »
I think YMCA would have to agree to that??

Yes, the Y owns that land. I believe that they want any deal to include shared use of a parking garage.

Their master site plan for the original project includes plans for a 8-story mixed-use structure with a 3-story parking garage.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-jan-riverside-ymca-project-approved

I'd think that you could probably get a slightly larger footprint structure (maybe ground-floor retail along Riverside with hotel entrances on Riverside and Jackson?) by making the parking garage a story or two taller.

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2017, 10:22:53 PM »
So they are serving 3 dinners and 2 brunches per week.  Can a restaurant pay the rent or keep the lights on when they aren't even open for more than half the week?  Can they retain talented kitchen and wait staff if they aren't able to offer anyone more than a few shifts a week?

It sounds like they believed a bunch of ridiculous hype about 220 Riverside, and Brooklyn in general. 

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2017, 11:21:07 PM »
If they can fill the restaurant for all services Th-Su, then I'd have to say yes.  Probably not making much money, but any profit is still profit, right?

 Lower overall overhead & one food order per week.   Weathering the storm.
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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2017, 09:39:15 AM »
Have to imagine their rent has been reduced as well. At this point it is either that or another empty block for the owners.

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2018, 12:38:01 PM »
Looks like Hob Nob is done as a restaurant:
The restaurant opened in Brooklyn in 2016. The company is still offering private dining and event meetings but is closing the dine-in restaurant.Per the https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2018/01/09/hobnob-food-social-exchange-announces-closing.html?ana=e_jac_bn&u=bcQncpcx33EQG7jYW52FGg0dcc0289&t=1515519390&j=79474581
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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2018, 04:47:00 PM »
Too bad, but not surprising. I was there last week at happy hour and my group were literally the only ones in the place besides one guy at the bar.
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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2018, 12:55:09 PM »
http://jacksonville.com/business/food-and-dining/2018-01-24/restaurant-closes-jacksonville-s-brooklyn-station-riverside

Another Brooklyn eatery shuts it's doors. GrabbaGreen closes.

So far Corner Bakery (replaced by First Watch), Grabba Green, Hob Nob and Spraga & Co have closed in this area.
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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2018, 12:59:15 PM »
I bet a Chik-Fil-A would have no problem, if you know what I mean.

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2018, 01:52:04 PM »
^I heard Grabbagreen wasn't that great, but I've never been.  I go to Tossgreen downtown a couple times a week and they're always busy and are currently hiring.

Some tenants at Brooklyn station are doing extremely well, so I'd say it's more on the retailer and not the environment or property itself.

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2018, 02:06:45 PM »
^I heard Grabbagreen wasn't that great, but I've never been.  I go to Tossgreen downtown a couple times a week and they're always busy and are currently hiring.

Some tenants at Brooklyn station are doing extremely well, so I'd say it's more on the retailer and not the environment or property itself.

With Brooklyn Station I completely agree, though I've see Burrito Gallery slow on some weekends. First Watch was packed last time I went there for Brunch on a weekend. BurgerFi doesn't seem to have a problem, and I bet Zoe's could make it on corporate catering alone (but does a good lunch business as well).

Unity Plaza is a different animal entirely.

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2018, 05:29:15 PM »
I'm curious about the demographic that is living in the new apartments at Brooklyn.

Also, the owner of HobNob was on WJCT and said "we were promised over 100 events per year at Unity Plaza."

Who did the promising, the developer or COJ?  I don't remember.

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Re: Changes announced at Unity Plaza’s HOBNOB
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2018, 06:49:32 PM »
I'm curious about the demographic that is living in the new apartments at Brooklyn.

Also, the owner of HobNob was on WJCT and said "we were promised over 100 events per year at Unity Plaza."

Who did the promising, the developer or COJ?  I don't remember.

Both. The Brown administration struck a bad deal with no way to hold the developer to actually doing the events, or what the events would be. So the owners copped out.
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