Author Topic: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population  (Read 5548 times)

Kerry

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Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2017, 11:01:47 PM »
I kind of hate lists like this because they are just raw numbers with no context.  Jacksonville is disproportionately high on this list because about 90% of the population of metro Jacksonville lives inside the city limit.  Then you have Tampa down at #52 but is the principle city in a metro area of 3.5 million, which would make it #3 on the list if they just annexed the metro area.  If Tampa merely merged with Hillsborough County it would jump to #10.  When you can go from #53 to #10 in a single day the whole premise is flawed.

There has to be a better way to quantify the relative size of cities taking into account a city's land area, percentage of metro-population, percentage of the State population, and other factors.  Plus, maybe we shouldn't even look at places like Miami, Ft Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach as individual cities - but a single entity with 3 primary population nodes.

Maybe if someone came up with a City-State model of American cities it would be pretty fun to analyze.
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Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2017, 07:34:44 AM »
There are already other ways. By metropolitan area being one, although it also has its cons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Metropolitan_Statistical_Areas

I find urban area by population and density as being more apples to apples. However, this list only comes out once a decade:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_urban_areas

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Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2017, 09:54:53 AM »
I kind of hate lists like this because they are just raw numbers with no context.  Jacksonville is disproportionately high on this list because about 90% of the population of metro Jacksonville lives inside the city limit.  Then you have Tampa down at #52 but is the principle city in a metro area of 3.5 million, which would make it #3 on the list if they just annexed the metro area.  If Tampa merely merged with Hillsborough County it would jump to #10.  When you can go from #53 to #10 in a single day the whole premise is flawed.

There has to be a better way to quantify the relative size of cities taking into account a city's land area, percentage of metro-population, percentage of the State population, and other factors.  Plus, maybe we shouldn't even look at places like Miami, Ft Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach as individual cities - but a single entity with 3 primary population nodes.

Maybe if someone came up with a City-State model of American cities it would be pretty fun to analyze.
To get 3.5 million would take consolidating with Hillsborough county (1.3 million), annexing Pinellas county (950,000), Pasco county (500,000), Sarasota county (400,000), and Manatee county (350,000).  Which would also give it a land area of 4,224 sq miles.  Nearly 6 times the already massive land area of Jacksonville.

As Lake noted, urban, metro and density metrics are much better for comparing cities.  City limits are often somewhat arbitrary and vary drastically.  Jax and San Fransisco have about the same population but Jax is 747 square miles while SF is just 46 square miles.

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Re: Top 100 US Cities Ranked By 2016 Population
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2017, 12:14:42 PM »
I kind of hate lists like this because they are just raw numbers with no context.  Jacksonville is disproportionately high on this list because about 90% of the population of metro Jacksonville lives inside the city limit.  Then you have Tampa down at #52 but is the principle city in a metro area of 3.5 million, which would make it #3 on the list if they just annexed the metro area.  If Tampa merely merged with Hillsborough County it would jump to #10.  When you can go from #53 to #10 in a single day the whole premise is flawed.

There has to be a better way to quantify the relative size of cities taking into account a city's land area, percentage of metro-population, percentage of the State population, and other factors.  Plus, maybe we shouldn't even look at places like Miami, Ft Lauderdale, and West Palm Beach as individual cities - but a single entity with 3 primary population nodes.

Maybe if someone came up with a City-State model of American cities it would be pretty fun to analyze.

Are you sure about your numbers?? 90 percent of 1.5 million lives in Jacksonville city limits. Very unlikely.  It's more like 55 percent.

Duval County has a population of 926,000......Jacksonville only consolidated with DUVAL COUNTY.....not baker, not clay, not st. johns.....JUST DUVAL. IJS

If Jacksonville city limits was 90 percent of roughly 1.5 million....JACKSONVILLE would be sitting at about 1,3500,000.. TOP 10 biggest in US status lol

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