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Learning from Asheville?
« on: April 30, 2007, 12:00:00 AM »
Learning from Asheville?



Asheville is the largest city in Western North Carolina.  After prospering in the early 20th century, downtown went through five decades of stagnation, before things turned around to make the city’s core one of the most vibrant in the Southeast.  Can Jacksonville benefit from any of the redevelopment ideas and principles applied in a city one tenth its size?

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Owen Holmes

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Ah, Asheville
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2007, 07:49:49 AM »
Great article. From what I hear, Asheville is beginning to experience the sprawl issues that Jacksonville has suffered from for years (i.e. development is spreading out of the core and into the 'burbs).

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Sprawl....
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2007, 08:10:47 AM »
I was up in Asheville a few months ago and I can tell you that sprawl in that region has been around for a while now.  You could probably argue that it began in the same time period as Jacksonville's, just at a different level.  However, its pretty difficult to find a US city that hasn't been impacted by sprawl to some degree.  Even NYC, sprawls across New Jersey, Chicagoland takes up a large chunk of Illinois and Seattle sprawls as far south as Tacoma.   Nevertheless, these places have been fairly successful at not losing focus on their cores, despite rapid growth surrounding them.
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Asheville is a great town
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2007, 09:20:06 AM »
It is a great town but no where close to being a major city. It is a great place to visit or go to college, but I would not want to live there. Too small.

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Re: Learning from Asheville?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2007, 07:16:33 AM »
Looks like UrbanJacksonville just got back from Asheville:

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Think 5-Points style retail lining every city block in Downtown Jacksonville with offices and living spaces above the shops. Nice thought eh?

http://www.urbanjacksonville.info/2007/11/15/back-from-asheville/

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Re: Learning from Asheville?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2007, 09:19:43 AM »
I'm so glad that the example of Asheville has popped up on this forum. We visit Asheville regularly and over the 40 years have seen dramatic changes in their downtown. Sure, it's not as big as Jax but they have had some very forward thinkers who were willing to sit at the table and put time and money into a restoration and renovation of their central area.

In the 1960-70s, the place was a mess. Pollution, air and water, and a propensity for tearing down much of their Art Deco heritage. Citizens  revolted demanding a new vision for downtown. Two big money men started renovation of downtown buildings with the idea of attracting artists, non-profit groups, university students, and urbanites. They saved some beautiful old buildings and helped the city to get grants to landscape, redo sidewalks, lighting, parking. The town quickly filled up with small business such as antique stores, family owned business, ethnic restaurants, folk art. Some of the factory buildings were converted into malls and a huge art and entertainment center was restored. Old buildings were converted to condos and offices for non-profit groups.

The point of Asheville which I think could teach us is that sometimes you have to start small - sort of organically in the Jane Jacobs mold. Big super stores will never make the investment in center cities because their kind of business depends on following a proven model not flexible enough for urban areas. I was in Asheville two weeks ago on an early Sunday morning. The town was alive. People were coming into restaurants to eat Sunday brunch and walk around looking in shop windows. Shopping in Asheville is a great experience if you want unique items, personalized service, and pleasant town walking. Asheville is beginning to have success problems - vagrants looking for handouts, wealthy developers wanting to tear down old buildings, litter, graffiti.   
Seems to me they will handle it.



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Re: Learning from Asheville?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 08:25:33 PM »
Yes, Asheville has made a significant investment with the art community.



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One of the key’s to Asheville’s success, has been the acceptance of live music venues, festivals and the arts within a relatively compact pedestrian setting.

Isn't this an area of the city's budget that our council has toyed with the idea of axing?
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Re: Learning from Asheville?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 09:18:04 PM »
I think a photo doc journey of Athens, GA would be cool. My few trips there several years back were tremendous. I am trying to get my son interested in Athens as he will be transferring from FCCJ soon (and I am a Gator alum...oh the horror). A laid back vibe with tons of music and a cool scene. He is a musician and I think he would like the vibe there. It is kind of a larger version of 5-points.

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Re: Learning from Asheville?
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 09:42:24 PM »
Never been there but Asheville, through pics I have seen and from what I have read is a very intriguing City.  You can tell by the low rise skyscrapers that Asheville was almost on its way to become a major city and then something happened to stagnate and stump its growth.  From the pics presented in this thread, very clean, vibrant, and Europeaneque looking City within America.

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