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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #135 on: November 10, 2017, 10:30:08 AM »
They'd be at the bar watching Barthelona.

So, so accurate.
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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #136 on: January 08, 2018, 04:56:53 PM »
Not sure this changes a whole lot. But the NASL is nearly officially dead. And as of now, it does not appear that the Armada are joining the USL, which many other NASL franchises did.

If the Armada move down (or go amateur), it's RIP Armada.

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/armada-owner-says-team-could-play-in-different-league-in-2018

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #137 on: January 10, 2018, 05:02:48 PM »
Not sure this changes a whole lot. But the NASL is nearly officially dead. And as of now, it does not appear that the Armada are joining the USL, which many other NASL franchises did.

If the Armada move down (or go amateur), it's RIP Armada.

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/armada-owner-says-team-could-play-in-different-league-in-2018

It's concerning they're talking about moving into D3 leagues or lower. Hard to see them getting any better attendance with that than the very low levels they got last year. It needs to be USL or nothing, frankly.
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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #138 on: January 30, 2018, 09:33:20 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #139 on: January 30, 2018, 10:16:58 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

No mention of joining the USL. Exploring "start up leagues" doesn't really inspire confidence.
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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #140 on: January 30, 2018, 10:27:22 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

No mention of joining the USL. Exploring "start up leagues" doesn't really inspire confidence.

No, no it doesn't.  <<sigh>>

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #141 on: January 30, 2018, 10:40:28 PM »
Until US Soccer restructures, the Armada will be influx.

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #142 on: January 30, 2018, 10:45:44 PM »
Until US Soccer restructures, the Armada will be influx.

Yes, I guess we could look at it optimistically; we CAN'T be in any worse shape than USA Soccer itself!  ;)

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #143 on: January 31, 2018, 12:37:45 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

No mention of joining the USL. Exploring "start up leagues" doesn't really inspire confidence.

No, no it doesn't.  <<sigh>>

The owner said on Twitter that USL isn't an option, but can't get into why for legal reasons. It's hard to see them lasting long in lower divisions (or no division), especially knowing that USL is interested in the Jax market.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #144 on: January 31, 2018, 12:51:59 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

No mention of joining the USL. Exploring "start up leagues" doesn't really inspire confidence.

No, no it doesn't.  <<sigh>>

The owner said on Twitter that USL isn't an option, but can't get into why for legal reasons. It's hard to see them lasting long in lower divisions (or no division), especially knowing that USL is interested in the Jax market.

Soccer is such a mess in this country.  You know, it's kinda like everything we discuss on this forum when dealing with the Shipyards and downtown.  Instead of a small, grass-roots thing happening and building up from the bottom, we want it to emulate what we see in organizations that have been around for 100+ years (MLB, NFL, etc.)  Let's go for the home run when really we should be far more localized.

When I was growing up, there was a great minor-league hockey league called the IHL.  Its teams were all within a long bus ride to each other.  In Michigan, there was Muskegon, Kalamazoo, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron.  Indiana had Ft Wayne, Ohio had Toledo and Columbus, etc.  Then, some genius decided that the IHL needed broader horizons (read: more money to be made).  The expanded to Las Vegas and other plane rides around the country.  Within a few years, the league folded.  No way can you carry that kind of expense for that level of league.

The reason I bring this up is, wouldn't soccer be better suited with a regional league of teams that would allow natural rivalries to take place?  I mean, imagine the "SouthEast Soccer Association".  Jax, Tallahassee, Gainesville, Huntsville, Macon, Birmingham, Savannah, etc.  This would make far more sense than having teams that draw maybe 4,000 fans on a good night flying to Minneapolis!

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #145 on: January 31, 2018, 04:25:28 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

No mention of joining the USL. Exploring "start up leagues" doesn't really inspire confidence.

No, no it doesn't.  <<sigh>>

The owner said on Twitter that USL isn't an option, but can't get into why for legal reasons. It's hard to see them lasting long in lower divisions (or no division), especially knowing that USL is interested in the Jax market.

Soccer is such a mess in this country.  You know, it's kinda like everything we discuss on this forum when dealing with the Shipyards and downtown.  Instead of a small, grass-roots thing happening and building up from the bottom, we want it to emulate what we see in organizations that have been around for 100+ years (MLB, NFL, etc.)  Let's go for the home run when really we should be far more localized.

When I was growing up, there was a great minor-league hockey league called the IHL.  Its teams were all within a long bus ride to each other.  In Michigan, there was Muskegon, Kalamazoo, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron.  Indiana had Ft Wayne, Ohio had Toledo and Columbus, etc.  Then, some genius decided that the IHL needed broader horizons (read: more money to be made).  The expanded to Las Vegas and other plane rides around the country.  Within a few years, the league folded.  No way can you carry that kind of expense for that level of league.

The reason I bring this up is, wouldn't soccer be better suited with a regional league of teams that would allow natural rivalries to take place?  I mean, imagine the "SouthEast Soccer Association".  Jax, Tallahassee, Gainesville, Huntsville, Macon, Birmingham, Savannah, etc.  This would make far more sense than having teams that draw maybe 4,000 fans on a good night flying to Minneapolis!

Speaking of soccer, you watching the match tonight, Timmy?
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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #146 on: January 31, 2018, 05:34:45 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

No mention of joining the USL. Exploring "start up leagues" doesn't really inspire confidence.

No, no it doesn't.  <<sigh>>

The owner said on Twitter that USL isn't an option, but can't get into why for legal reasons. It's hard to see them lasting long in lower divisions (or no division), especially knowing that USL is interested in the Jax market.

Soccer is such a mess in this country.  You know, it's kinda like everything we discuss on this forum when dealing with the Shipyards and downtown.  Instead of a small, grass-roots thing happening and building up from the bottom, we want it to emulate what we see in organizations that have been around for 100+ years (MLB, NFL, etc.)  Let's go for the home run when really we should be far more localized.

When I was growing up, there was a great minor-league hockey league called the IHL.  Its teams were all within a long bus ride to each other.  In Michigan, there was Muskegon, Kalamazoo, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron.  Indiana had Ft Wayne, Ohio had Toledo and Columbus, etc.  Then, some genius decided that the IHL needed broader horizons (read: more money to be made).  The expanded to Las Vegas and other plane rides around the country.  Within a few years, the league folded.  No way can you carry that kind of expense for that level of league.

The reason I bring this up is, wouldn't soccer be better suited with a regional league of teams that would allow natural rivalries to take place?  I mean, imagine the "SouthEast Soccer Association".  Jax, Tallahassee, Gainesville, Huntsville, Macon, Birmingham, Savannah, etc.  This would make far more sense than having teams that draw maybe 4,000 fans on a good night flying to Minneapolis!

Speaking of soccer, you watching the match tonight, Timmy?

Yes, and I'm slitting my wrists as I type.  Very tough to do, mind you.

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #147 on: January 31, 2018, 05:54:44 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

No mention of joining the USL. Exploring "start up leagues" doesn't really inspire confidence.

No, no it doesn't.  <<sigh>>

The owner said on Twitter that USL isn't an option, but can't get into why for legal reasons. It's hard to see them lasting long in lower divisions (or no division), especially knowing that USL is interested in the Jax market.

Soccer is such a mess in this country.  You know, it's kinda like everything we discuss on this forum when dealing with the Shipyards and downtown.  Instead of a small, grass-roots thing happening and building up from the bottom, we want it to emulate what we see in organizations that have been around for 100+ years (MLB, NFL, etc.)  Let's go for the home run when really we should be far more localized.

When I was growing up, there was a great minor-league hockey league called the IHL.  Its teams were all within a long bus ride to each other.  In Michigan, there was Muskegon, Kalamazoo, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron.  Indiana had Ft Wayne, Ohio had Toledo and Columbus, etc.  Then, some genius decided that the IHL needed broader horizons (read: more money to be made).  The expanded to Las Vegas and other plane rides around the country.  Within a few years, the league folded.  No way can you carry that kind of expense for that level of league.

The reason I bring this up is, wouldn't soccer be better suited with a regional league of teams that would allow natural rivalries to take place?  I mean, imagine the "SouthEast Soccer Association".  Jax, Tallahassee, Gainesville, Huntsville, Macon, Birmingham, Savannah, etc.  This would make far more sense than having teams that draw maybe 4,000 fans on a good night flying to Minneapolis!

Speaking of soccer, you watching the match tonight, Timmy?

Yes, and I'm slitting my wrists as I type.  Very tough to do, mind you.

Unbelievable. Needless to say, I'm happy.
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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #148 on: January 31, 2018, 07:38:52 PM »
Well, at least they will be playing SOME level of soccer in a couple of months!

https://www.news4jax.com/sports/soccer/armada/armada-find-temporary-home-in-npsl

No mention of joining the USL. Exploring "start up leagues" doesn't really inspire confidence.

No, no it doesn't.  <<sigh>>

The owner said on Twitter that USL isn't an option, but can't get into why for legal reasons. It's hard to see them lasting long in lower divisions (or no division), especially knowing that USL is interested in the Jax market.

Soccer is such a mess in this country.  You know, it's kinda like everything we discuss on this forum when dealing with the Shipyards and downtown.  Instead of a small, grass-roots thing happening and building up from the bottom, we want it to emulate what we see in organizations that have been around for 100+ years (MLB, NFL, etc.)  Let's go for the home run when really we should be far more localized.

When I was growing up, there was a great minor-league hockey league called the IHL.  Its teams were all within a long bus ride to each other.  In Michigan, there was Muskegon, Kalamazoo, Saginaw, Flint, Port Huron.  Indiana had Ft Wayne, Ohio had Toledo and Columbus, etc.  Then, some genius decided that the IHL needed broader horizons (read: more money to be made).  The expanded to Las Vegas and other plane rides around the country.  Within a few years, the league folded.  No way can you carry that kind of expense for that level of league.

The reason I bring this up is, wouldn't soccer be better suited with a regional league of teams that would allow natural rivalries to take place?  I mean, imagine the "SouthEast Soccer Association".  Jax, Tallahassee, Gainesville, Huntsville, Macon, Birmingham, Savannah, etc.  This would make far more sense than having teams that draw maybe 4,000 fans on a good night flying to Minneapolis!

Speaking of soccer, you watching the match tonight, Timmy?

Yes, and I'm slitting my wrists as I type.  Very tough to do, mind you.

Unbelievable. Needless to say, I'm happy.
 

About the game, or me offing myself?   ;)

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Re: Jacksonville Armada in trouble?
« Reply #149 on: February 01, 2018, 01:39:09 AM »
the weird things is that Armada's U-23 squad was in the NPSL the last few seasons.