Author Topic: Lenny Curry wants state money to remove Hart Bridge ramps near Everbank Field  (Read 37554 times)

thelakelander

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It kind of sounds like they're just going to demolish the ramps and keep the existing Gator Bowl Boulevard.
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And build a multi-use path on the south side of the road.  Where will the JTA Pods go?  No special lanes? In mixed traffic on the four-lane GB Blvd.?  On the multi-use path?  Did the City / FDOT / JTA coordinate on this?

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Sounds like an isolated multi-use path. Motorized vehicles aren't allowed on paths, so I guess the U2C will be in mixed lanes, but I doubt there's been serious coordination on that aspect. I also wonder how those four lanes will intersect with a new ramp at A. Philip Randolph? I suspect there will be more coordination and technical related delays as they get further down the road.
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Wait, I'm confused.

Sounds like they're bypassing a PD&E.

Isn't it required when federal funds are involved?

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^Sounds like more of the Shipyards and District stuff to me. Quick to come out with timelines to appease the public, only to shift them a few months later when they realize more is needed. However, this article is the first time I've seen it discussed from a manner where they're razing the viaduct but not constructing a context sensitive boulevard in its place.
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for reference, the courthouse parking lot removal was to be complete in Spring of 2018.  They are getting there....

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Wait, I'm confused.

Sounds like they're bypassing a PD&E.

Isn't it required when federal funds are involved?


generally for new capacity projects, and/or when environmental impacts might occur - but good question

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Wait, I'm confused.

Sounds like they're bypassing a PD&E.

Isn't it required when federal funds are involved?


generally for new capacity projects, and/or when environmental impacts might occur - but good question

According to the FDOT PD&E Manual, because there are federal funds are involved, the process must comply with NEPA. The big question will be what type of environmental work will be needed. At the very least, it appears an Environmental Assessment will have to be performed, to determine the level of impacts.  Does the removal of the ramps "significantly impact travel patterns" or "have any significant environmental impacts"?  Like, the potential clean-up of the shipyard area to remove the bridge pilings; or new construction for the new ramps by WJCT and AP Randolph.  Although it is somewhat of a risk, Design and PD&E could proceed simultaneously.

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The schedule, like most they've put out over the last couple of years, sounds pretty ambitious. Expect the real process to last longer.
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Wonder if Bay Street / Gator Bowl Blvd. will be part of State Road 228 - like the ramps it will replace?  Or will there be a gap in the state road?  If it will be SR 228, the City will have to transfer the right-of-way from the to the State for the multi-use path. From what I've heard, that process can take a long time - but, I guess if the City is motivated, they can expedite.

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I'm looking forward to see the elevated section gone.

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The schedule, like most they've put out over the last couple of years, sounds pretty ambitious. Expect the real process to last longer.

This.  Not one major infrastructure project in Jacksonville is on-schedule.  There's a significantly weak labor market in the construction field in Jacksonville.