Author Topic: Lenny Curry wants state money to remove Hart Bridge ramps near Everbank Field  (Read 24665 times)

thelakelander

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It will be roughly a 1/4 of the total amount needed for the project, assuming Scott doesn't veto. Any idea on the timeline to see if the $25 million in federal money is granted?

Btw, to bring up the U2C issue again and the need to line up technical information and funding, there needs to be coordination between these projects. Curry appears to be moving a faster pace than JTA. However, if he's securing money to rip down the ramps and reconstruct the street below, it creates an opportunity for dedicated lanes/ROW to be built into Curry's project as a part of the $50 million he's trying to secure.  If there is no coordination, then we'll get a new corridor not designed for whatever JTA is trying to figure out and when they do figure it out, we'll be either running the thing in shared lanes (limiting transit efficiency) or paying millions to reconfigure a recently completed project.
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^The $12.5 million in state money is contingent upon a $12.5 million match from the city. Curry will be back in DC this week lobbying for the remaining $25 million via federal Rebuilding America grant. Applications were due in November, so we've got to be getting close to a decision.
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Approved by the state legislator last night.
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This is definitely in the works to a certain extent. My firm is currently working on some of the preliminary engineering & permitting work for this project, so there must be some bit of funding heading its way, at the very least for PD&E. Not sure if it'll be a conventional or a design-build project...

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Does the plan still include making Gator Bowl Blvd. six lanes?

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If a PD&E is needed, how many years are we looking at?
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I'm guessing the PD&E is the $250k study that the FDOT agreed to fund back in February. Since then, the state agreed to provide $12.5 million for actual construction.

http://www.jacksonville.com/metro/news/2017-02-24/state-agrees-250000-study-demolishing-part-hart-bridge-ramps
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I suspect that a PD&E may cost a lot more than $250k
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There may be environmental issues with removing the Hart bridge piers, and reconstructing GB Blvd.  Probably lots of nasty stuff in the ground.  Nasty stuff that wasn't considered in the 1960s when the Hart was built.

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That makes a lot of sense. All of that area was heavy industry for at least 50 years before the Hart Bridge ramps were built.
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PD and E?  Please 'splain it for the rest of us.

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Project Development and Environmental Study - where engineers do the preliminary engineering needed to determine the environmental impacts of the proposed project. Any environmental issues found must either be avoided, minimized, or mitigated. For more than you want to know about PD&E, I present the FDOT PD&E Manual. http://www.fdot.gov/environment/pubs/pdeman/pdeman1.shtm

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Thank you Charles, I was going to ask the same question.

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Environmental issues? In  Jacksonville? Really? :P

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There may be environmental issues with removing the Hart bridge piers, and reconstructing GB Blvd.  Probably lots of nasty stuff in the ground.  Nasty stuff that wasn't considered in the 1960s when the Hart was built.

They seem to be allowed to pave over dirty land. Exhibit A: Lot J.