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Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« on: April 04, 2007, 12:00:00 AM »
Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour



Opened in the mid 1950's, and after going through a period of decline from 1988 to 1994, the 630,000sf Gateway Mall is well on its way to making a comeback.  While you won't find the Gaps and Cheesecake Factories of the world here, you will discover a center that has been recreated to serve the needs of the surrounding communities.

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Nice to meet y'all on Tuesday night
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2007, 08:36:22 AM »
MetroJax Tuesday night attendees,

It was a pleasure to meet all of you last night. Stephen, thanks for hosting the evening.  I enjoyed the meeting and the discussion - it was great to "put the screen name to the face" (so to speak) and meet others who are passionate about the downtown area and civic involvement!

Best,
Pavers (aka Tom)

P.S.  a newsbite for the peanut gallery:  there was a tiny blurb in the T-U business section today about the Strand building reverting back to a rental property - somewhat surprising, since it comes so soon after their sales "grand opening."  Also, I assume you've seen the larger business section article on the planned downtown grocery in the old main library buidling.

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2007, 08:41:29 AM »
Great tour and history.  I had no idea the mall has been around that long.  It revitalization is great news for the northside.

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2007, 08:49:32 AM »
It's actually nice to see Gateway still thriving. It has done better than the old Normandy Mall.  With the development of passenger rail service and the BRT, this can only help to sustain Gateway and directly connect it to Downtown and surronding neighborhoods.

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2007, 07:37:55 PM »
NEED TO LOOK AT NORMANDY MALL THE WELL KNOW MINISTER TD JAKES ORGANIZATION(POTTER'S HOUSE) IS REVITALIZING THE MALL WITH A BISTRO AND A GYM.

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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 10:57:41 PM »
Gateway Town Center up for sale
Northside shopping landmark listed for $23 million

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By Kevin Turner
The Gateway Town Center, a northside shopping center that was converted into an enclosed mall in 1967, went on the market for sale today with a $23 million price tag.

The mall opened Oct. 12, 1967 as the Greater Gateway Shopping Center, and at the time was believed to be the largest of its kind in North Florida and South Georgia. The mall incorporated about 50 existing shops and added another 32 in a new enclosed area. Additions included Montgomery Ward and JC Penney store anchors. It was an upgrade to the original shopping center that opened at that location in 1959.

full article: http://jacksonville.com/business/2010-05-11/story/gateway-town-center-sale
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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 11:13:42 PM »
From TU May 9, 2010:

http://jacksonville.com/business/2010-05-09/story/32000-duval-properties-owe-65-million-taxes

"Carlton Jones, general manager of the Gateway Town Center, said Wachovia Bank bought the town center's 2008 tax certificate of more than $321,600 as a "courtesy," but said he didn't have information to comment on the center's 2009 tax arrears of $258,594.41 that placed the center in the No. 7 spot on the list."
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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 11:15:42 PM »
Is it safe to assume they won't be paying that $258,594.41 property tax bill?
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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 11:18:17 PM »
I guess the medical mall plan is off the table as well.  How long will it take for Walmart to come in, preserve the parking lot, level the buildings and construct a supercenter in its place?

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The city of Jacksonville provided a $10 million tax break so the owner could attract a new anchor tenant, a 27,000-square-foot Publix Super Markets Inc. store that still anchors the center today.

Although the center was renovated again in 2005 by current owner, The Renaissance Group, the property has continued to decline and now has a nearly 29 percent vacancy rate.

In February The Renaissance Group Managing Partner Carlton Jones said he was trying to get tenants in the indoor portion of the center to relocate to the strip center in order to transform the interior into medical-use space. But that project depended on the economy and his ability to get $2 million.

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2010/05/10/daily18.html


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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 11:49:05 PM »
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How long will it take for Walmart to come in, preserve the parking lot, level the buildings and construct a supercenter in its place?

Why would they, Wal-Mart, even sniff in the direction of Gateway Mall? There is little growth in and around the area, look at where their stores are now, within 3-5 miles of high growth areas. Gateway is the past, look for it to go the way of Phillips or Roosevelt mall, but even those plans are too gracious.
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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 11:59:14 PM »
Is the area around Emerson and Philips really growing?  The Inner Northside still has a pretty high population density (for Jax), Gateway has interstate visibility, and there's little competition in the area.  Not saying it will happen but they did look at the site a few years ago.
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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2010, 12:03:41 AM »
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they did look at the site a few years ago.

We were in a VERY different real estate market a few years ago. San Marco is growing, close to the Wal-Mart, as is the developments planned but not built yet in San Marco. The Normandy store is close to the westside and Chafee/103rd street. The 103rd street location thrives because of the dense population, and immigrants.

In every single Wal-Mart center, there are other stores or business close by that are thriving, Gateway is dead, Publix provided a dead cat bounce, but even they wish they could pull out, and might too.
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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2010, 12:12:57 AM »
Can't argue against the idea that Gateway is dying and needs a shot in the arm.  It would be interesting to see what would come out of a visioning session for that entire commercial district.
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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2010, 12:15:15 AM »
Lake - A gigantic church. Why not, Baptists pulled it off downtown. Structures are there, or we could turn it all into a compound and move the jail to it.
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Re: Exploring the Northside: Gateway Mall Photo Tour
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2010, 07:47:44 AM »

All the shoppers are in the  "Flea Market" across the street.  I went in there last week and there were hundreds of people shopping in there.  New stuff, clothing, hats, jewelry, food stalls, hair stalls, I was utterly amazed.  It sort of reminded me of a Jacksonville style Atlanta underground.