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FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« on: January 12, 2016, 03:00:04 AM »

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2016, 08:36:31 AM »
Apparently some of the businesses along this stretch are trying to fight the bike lane because they'll lose the street parking.

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2016, 08:46:58 AM »
Makes sense for them. I park on Hendricks when I go to Metro.

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2016, 01:59:25 PM »
Couldn't they reduce the lane width, keep the on-street parking and add a bike lane that is protected via those parked cars? That seems to be a common design in various parts of the country.

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2016, 02:09:56 PM »
^Yeah, may be possible to do suit both parties. Hopefully that's something they look for.
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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 03:33:56 PM »
Couldn't they reduce the lane width, keep the on-street parking and add a bike lane that is protected via those parked cars? That seems to be a common design in various parts of the country.

Like most good urban design; that is common in other parts of the country, but nonexistent in Duval.

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 04:05:21 PM »
^There is a stretch of San Jose near Bolles where FDOT added bike lanes and maintained parallel parking. So it can be done if there's enough width between the curbs to meet FDOT's minimum design standards.
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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 04:29:51 PM »
Like most good urban design; that is common in other parts of the country, but nonexistent in Duval.

Why is that? Do planners think we can't adapt to new things, is there some red tape that prevents it, what's the deal?

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 04:31:12 PM »
^There is a stretch of San Jose near Bolles where FDOT added bike lanes and maintained parallel parking. So it can be done if there's enough width between the curbs to meet FDOT's minimum design standards.

Is it the kind where the parking spaces are between the traffic lane and the bike lane? ie:



I know you're familiar with the concept, but just for illustration's sake.

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 04:54:18 PM »
^There is a stretch of San Jose near Bolles where FDOT added bike lanes and maintained parallel parking. So it can be done if there's enough width between the curbs to meet FDOT's minimum design standards.

The road isn't as wide here.  Also, that stretch has a paved median...this one is raised, so it may be a tad wider

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2016, 05:18:21 PM »
Perhaps the center lane can be reduced in width or eliminated altogether in certain stretches to accommodate periodic parallel parking?
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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2016, 05:53:19 PM »
Well, will anyone be at this public meeting in order to bring this option up for serious consideration?

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2016, 09:52:06 PM »
Like most good urban design; that is common in other parts of the country, but nonexistent in Duval.

Why is that? Do planners think we can't adapt to new things, is there some red tape that prevents it, what's the deal?

There are state standards that have been more conservative that some other states....and definitely more so than local standards for non-state roadways in some parts of the country....but thankfully, those standards are changing.

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2016, 10:45:43 AM »
The state is modifying the Green Book and standards for better and safer areas for pedestrians and bikes.  A chapter has been added for urban design.  It was written by Billy Hattaway who is the District 1 secretary.  The FDOT is making a real push in these areas, since Florida doesn't fair well again other states.

All new 6 lanes roads and existing one when they are resurfaced will move to 11' lanes and a 7' bike path.

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Re: FDOT to discuss plans for Hendricks/San Jose Project
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2016, 10:55:14 AM »
^The other day, in a meeting at FDOT's D5 urban office, I was told it will take around 18 months to 3 years before the PPM and Greenbook are officially modified.
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